Klarinet Archive - Posting 000753.txt from 2001/01
From: Sterkel Terrance-W15462 <T.Sterkel@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] scary turn of discussion: Mouthpieces
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:55:18 -0500
I have been following this discussion, and it has gone in a
scary direction.
As a very experienced engineer, I am painfully
aware of lot sample variances. I expect then, and through a
number of explicit (sample and reject) and implicit (Taguchi)
techniques attempt to mitigate the AFFECT of the variations
from one application to another.
As a 95 day wonder on the clarinet (30 year off the clarinet),
I do not have any basis to talk about mouthpieces except my
trip to WW & BW where I blew my brains out for 3 hours, settling
on the "best sounding but not the easiest" mouthpiece. Without
consciously thinking about it, I know I assumed that there would
be variation within any model number. What has me non-plussed is
the continual claim by the veterans here and on alt.music.clarinet
that the variations are so wide as to make any claims about a
model useless.
I find this position hard to take. This means that VanDoren, Selmer,
Woodwind, in fact anyone who makes more than one mouthpiece a month
is noticeably inconsistent musically within any mouthpiece model.
Is this *really* what the veterans are telling us?
best wishes,
terry
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-----Original Message-----
From: rgarrett@-----.edu]
Subject: RE: [kl] Mouthpieces
At 10:36 PM 01/22/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > Only if A's M15 is identical to your's. The odds are, it isn't.
> >
>This is only necessary if I'm trying the impossible, to sound identical to
>A. But I'm only emulating a general sound quality, a direction. I am very
>aware of the differences between individual mouthpieces of the same line.
>But two M15's stand a better statistical chance of being close in potential
>response than an M15 and another maker's or manufacturer's work.
>
>Karl
Karl,
You may not be aware that one M15 (I guess we are using random
numbers.......) may not be anything like another M15 - therefore, they
don't stand any kind of a "better chance" statistically. If one has a tip
of 1.12 with a curve of 6, 12, 22, 34, and the other has a tip of 1.16 and
a curve of 7, 12, 24, 36..........do you still feel you have a
statistically better chance of being close in potential tone quality than
some other mouthpiece? Why do you think so?
My comment had nothing to do with "endorsements and commercial
interests." It had to do with useful information.
Sincerely,
Roger Garrett
Roger Garrett
Clarinet Professor
Director, Symphonic Winds
Advisor, IWU Recording Services
Illinois Wesleyan University
School of Music
Bloomington, IL 61702-2900
Phone: (309) 556-3268
Fax: (309) 556-3121
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