Klarinet Archive - Posting 000940.txt from 2000/12

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] Performance [was, Peplowski continued]
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 09:14:29 -0500

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 21:21:18 -0800 (PST), Bilwright@-----.net said:

> Anne wrote:
>
> > If I felt that creativity was reserved strictly for an elite class of
> > intellectual musicians, then I think I would be most disappointed
>
> Three cheers !!!

As I say in another post, quite wright, Bill.

> Part of what Bateson proposed (I think) is similar to my idea of
> consensus. If you had a hand in forging consensus, then you created
> something. If you were a dictator and imposed it, then you may have
> 'created', but without what Bateson called 'grace'.

It's a discussion, and I recommend that you read Bateson and not me
before going on with 'grace'. Nevertheless, I agree with a lot of what
you've written.

The only thing is, when you say, 'If you had a hand in forging
consensus' -- who is this 'you', and with whom are you forging
consensus? What if there were no audience?

And when you say,

> However, no matter which 'creative' context you are discussing, there
> absolutely has to be room to make the music your own. Otherwise
> (imo) it's not really music. Music (imo) has to be for the performer
> first.

...which bit of you counts as the 'performer' -- the conscious part, or
the unconscious part?

> ....but what's the bottom line? The bottom line is that, tonight,
> I'm sitting at my computer devising a second track for a melody that I
> wrote myself, rather than practising scales and learning to 'play
> right'. I know I'll never be on a stage or in a pit, but I'm having
> fun with music and therefore I am a musician.

Yes!

Tony
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