Klarinet Archive - Posting 000746.txt from 2000/12

From: Bob Shaw <theshaws@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] S.C.A.M.P. Members
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:04:50 -0500

We have a British style brass band here in Northwest Arkansas. Amateur, but
quite good. One thing I wonder is, since almost all of the instruments are
silver, shouldn't it be a 'silver band'? bob B-)

Tony Wakefield wrote:

> Is the brass band movement as alive in America as the wind band? Stupid
> question I s`pose on a clarinet list.
>
> Still, - - - - - Happy Yuletide every one!
> Tony W.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rgarrett@-----.edu>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: 13 December 2000 19:44
> Subject: Re: [kl] Difficult People (was Roger Speaks)
>
> > At 06:46 PM 12/13/2000 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Another one-liner? What did it say? - you must tell us - please!
> > ><And> who wrote it - - - -
> >
> >
> > My response is long (although not as long as others on the list!!)......so
> > delete if you don't want to read it or are not interested.
> >
> > The one-liner said:
> >
> > "What a silly man you are."
> >
> > Today, while cleaning house in preparation for parents arriving,
> Christmas,
> > etc., I ran across a book I had purchased back in the early '90s entitled,
> > "Coping with Difficult People" by Robert M. Bramson, Ph.D. Ten years ago
> I
> > worked with a colleague in my university who was very difficult to get
> > along with (he has since left thankfully!!!). I saw the book and hoped to
> > find some answers. In it there are several descriptors that are helpful
> in
> > labeling people who always seem to cause trouble for others. The book is
> > very interesting - and lots of fun to read - especially the part where the
> > author suggests a person can be labeled with two or more of these
> > descriptors. Of course, then the author suggests ways to deal with people
> > as labeled by one or more descriptors. One of the descriptors is called
> > the "Bulldozer," characterized by a know-it-all approach, and another was
> > called the "Sniper." Here are a few excerpts:
> >
> > "Bulldozers have in common with nondifficult people a strong sense that
> the
> > accumulation and ordering of facts and knowledge can provide stability in
> a
> > relatively whimsical world. Because Bulldozers believe that most of the
> > power to affect their own lives resides in them, they tend to see the
> ideas
> > and formulations of others as irrelevant to their own purposes. The
> > "know-it-all" quality that seemed appropriate and equated with strength in
> > their parents has become associated with both superiority and certainty of
> > knowledge. The know-it-all wants you to recognize he knows everything
> > there is to know about anything worth knowing. There is a tone of
> absolute
> > certainty, of sureness beyond mortal doubt, that, often without conscious
> > intent, leaves others feeling like objects of condescension. Most
> > frustrating of all is that these insufferable paragons of logic often turn
> > out to be absolutely right. Thus, they often leave others feeling inept,
> > confused, or stupid. Bulldozers not only make [others] feel resentful,
> > they also often elicit resistant, self-defeating behavior from them.
> > Bulldozers leave little room for anyone's judgements, creativity, or
> > resourcefulness. When things go wrong, Bulldozers often see the fault as
> > lying with those incompetents (like you and me) who were responsible for
> > things going wrong. Not all experts are Know-It-Alls. Experts are people
> > who know a great deal about a particular topic and can use that knowledge
> > to solve practical problems. They are often people of impressive
> humility."
> >
> > "Snipers do not come crashing down on you. They maintain a cover, if
> often
> > thin or transparent, from behind which they take pot shots at you. Their
> > weapons are hidden in snowballs: innuendos, sotto voce remarks,
> > not-too-subtle digs, nonplayful teasing, and the like. The chosen
> > recipients are struck by well-placed verbal missiles, high-powered enough
> > to hurt. but the attack is accompanied by other signals that say,
> 'Pretend
> > that what I'm doing is nice or neutral, or that you don't even hear
> > me.' Snipers have a very strong sense of how others ought to think and
> > act. They often have firm views of what can be done to solve the problems
> > that interfere with their own personal goals [or others]. However, since
> > their 'I'm superior' orientation tends to interfere with seeing things
> from
> > others' perspectives, what snipers expect from [others] is often
> unrealistic."
> >
> > Now, Mr. Wakefield, who do YOU think wrote the one liner???
> >
> > This post was respectfully submitted by "The Silly Man" - an honorary
> > member of S.C.A.M.P. (those of you who are also members know what that
> is).
> >
> > LOLROF. It's snowing today - I really love a good snow storm!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Roger Garrett
>
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