Klarinet Archive - Posting 000676.txt from 2000/12

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] Performance [was, Peplowski continued]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:33:31 -0500

On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:36:33 -0700, rbushidioglot@-----.com said:

> Tony Pay wrote:
>
> > (clip)
> >
> > This feeling of myself operating at a lower level of creativity than
> > the jazz performer, however, is somewhat offset for me by the
> > feeling that the end result of the jazz enterprise is not on such a
> > high level of artistic achievement. The best composed/performed
> > pieces are for me on a different level from the best improvised
> > pieces. Also, even though 'straight' players often find jazz
> > improvisation difficult or impossible, it has to be said that some
> > very good jazz players find it impossible to do what 'straight'
> > players do well. So perhaps it's not so easy after all.
>
> Dear Tony,
>
> There is no question about your extraordinary skill as a classical
> clarinetist. There is no question about your knowledge of, and your
> ability to play period music on period instruments.
>
> The above clip does suggest lack of understanding and appreciation for
> jazz and its constituent parts.

Well, I just made a post to someone else, in which I addressed the
issue.

First of all, you've snipped the bit I wrote about performers of written
music feeling that we are in a way, less creative than jazz performers,
who are more like composers in their own right.

The above clip was trying to say that although I regret my shortcomings
in that direction (though that doesn't mean I can't do it *at all*),
I've nevertheless chosen to throw my lot in with the great and not so
great composers, and feel, as I said in another thread, that my
participation in the Ring, or in Beethoven's Ninth symphony, is probably
to be involved in something probably greater, and certainly no less
than, the greatest improvisations.

But I still admire the great improvisers. You have to put the clip in
context. What I'm saying is, hey, look, I'm not so bad.

And in fact, what composers, improvisers, and performers of written
music do is, from a particular viewpoint, not so dissimilar. David
Niethamer asked me to explain that, but it's quite difficult.

Tony
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