Klarinet Archive - Posting 000650.txt from 2000/12

From: "Jennifer H. Jones" <jjones@-----.EDU>
Subj: RE: [kl] Children [was, Legere Reeds]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:33:05 -0500

Tony,

>@-----.org =====
>On Tue, 05 Dec 2000 17:18:53 -0800, jjones@-----.EDU said:
>
>> Lelia,
>>
>> I find it rather ironically amusing that you don't include in the list
>> of responses below, the one you exhibited as the "War of the Tony and
>> the Neil" started to smolder again. Surely, the child could remain
>> silent, prosper on the clarinet and interject a clever statement or
>> two that convinces the adults that there may be a better way to
>> exchange ideas, even if they have to be a bit more disciplined in
>> expressing their frustrations.
[snip]

I did not intend to trivialize Lelia's message by making the above comment. I
was aware of the gravity of Nancy's exchange with the band director and the
unlikeliness that such a child as I described existed. I just didn't make the
connection between Lelia's point and my thought that her list seemed
ironically incomplete in light of her recent posts, which you noticed and
promptly set about correcting. It probably didn't help that I rushed the note
off a couple minutes before I had to go to class. So, Lelia's omission of the
possibility I described above isn't as ironically amusing as I first thought,
rather it is more lucidly obvious.

>Just in passing, Jennifer, I hope I'm right in thinking that you're not
>seriously equating this very real and, for the child involved, possibly
>quite desperate situation with the one that you characterise above as,
>"the War of the Tony and the Neil", which lasted precisely one post
>each, plus one consisting entirely of a '[snip]', on a little mailing
>list. Some war.

I was thinking of a previous much larger scale cyber-altercation that
culminated in your temporary unsubscription. So when I hyperbolically
referred to "the War of the Tony and the Neil" it was in terms of what I
thought it could have become (not that either email conflict approached the
seriousness of Nancy's). I wasn't considering the seriousness of the conflict
and don't think it needed to be considered. The point was that there was a
better way to resolve the conflict than calling names/exchanging vitriolic
notes through a child. I was not implying that they were equivalent.

I'm not saying that the parties involved in the two conflicts were only
calling names, but names were definitely integrated in the posts.

>I suppose in the unlikely event that the child had the wisdom of a
>Solomon, she might even be able to transform the situation so that she
>had the band director buying her reeds out of his own pocket.

But, why would one with the wisdom of a Solomon do that? (or do I sense a bit
of sarcasm in there?) It seems to me like it would be an abuse of power,
something that a Solomon wouldn't find wise. But then, maybe i don't know
enough about Solomons to judge... I haven't read the Bible yet.

>And the discussion, about an important issue, actually, is being
>continued at a lower temperature. I have to get on with writing the
>next bit of it.

I'm glad to hear that and a bit sorry it can't be carried out on the list, as
I often find it helpful in figuring out my own views on issues by hearing
others debate them. I agree that they need to be discussed.

Thanks for the response.

Sincerely,

Jennifer H. Jones

Sophomore Botany major
University of California, Riverside
Co-principal clarinet UCR Orchestra

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