Klarinet Archive - Posting 000691.txt from 2000/10

From: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Swing Music in the Nazi Era (redux)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:01:41 -0400

Lelia, I must admit that the matter appears to be getting more confused
than clarified. I think more heat is getting put forward than light.

I really have lost track of who is saying what on this matter. But the
earlier dismissal of the list may have been premature.

Dan

LeliaLoban@-----.com wrote:
>
> Daniel Leeson quoted someone on another list, who wrote,
> >>Listmembers may remember the thread called "Regulations against swing
> >>music in the Nazi era". Dan Leeson posted this set of 10 rules signed by
> >>a Baldur von Blodheim, Reichsmusicfuhrer und Oberscharfuhrer SS, saying
> >>that he thought the whole thing was dubious. These rules are quite well
> >>known in the Jazz community - the list Dan posted is more or less a word
> >>for word transcription of a list that appears in Joseph Skvorecky's _Red
> >>Music_ - with the addition of this Baldur von Blodheim.
>
> Referring to Michael H. Kater as authority for the assertion that the rules
> are a hoax, the person from the other list continued,
> >>This bemused me somewhat and I wrote to Professor Kater privately. He
> >>told me in reply that he had not specifically disproven the list of
> >>Skvorecky's instructions - because there simply were too many lists to
> >>set them all straight. But that *if I read his three books carefully* it
> >>would be clear why he thought they were a hoax. I just wanted to make
> >>that clear to people - That while Dan correctly intuited the falsity of
> >>the list and Professor Kater, because of his command of the material,
> >>understands that Skvorecky's instructions are fake - To *see* that they
> >>are fake the non-specialist must read Professor Kater's books closely.
> >>As I say the falsity of the list is not known in the Jazz world (at
> >>least not the part I belong to), though the list itself is.
>
> Dan, thanks for the follow-up. I'm confused: Does Professor Kater believe
> that Joseph Skvorecky (a splendid satirist!) invented this hoax and wrote the
> list himself, as original creative work? Or did Skvorecky knowingly
> perpetrate a hoax begun by someone else? Or did Skvorecky believe this list
> was genuine?
>
> I'm a great fan of Joseph Skvorecky, especially his novella, "The Bass
> Saxophone". I've also seen the list, or something worded almost identically
> (the differences could be attributed to variant translations) reproduced
> elsewhere, as factual, without reference to Skvorecky. Recently I even
> quoted that list on a saxophone site, in the belief that the list was
> genuine. Therefore, your information interests me a great deal and I'm glad
> you're setting me (and a lot of other people) straight. Thank you for taking
> the trouble.
>
> Skvorecky is still alive, I believe, and may still teach literature in his
> adopted country, Canada. If anyone knows how to contact him, it might be
> possible to ask him directly.
>
> Lelia
>
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