Klarinet Archive - Posting 000623.txt from 2000/09

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: RE: [kl] being expressive in Italian
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:50:26 -0400

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:01:50 -0700 (PDT), Bilwright@-----.net said:

> Tony Pay wrote:
>
> > Bill Wright however, had written:
> >
> > > > Well.... the first step for _me_ would be to purchase a copy of
> > > > it. Am I correct that you refer to Brahms Sonata for Clarinet
> > > > (or Viola) and Piano No. 2 in Eb major, Opus 120/2?
> > > >
> > > > This will be the first piece of 'serious' printed music that
> > > > I've purchased. I hope that it doesn't cost a fortune, and I
> > > > know that there's no way I can actually play it; but I would
> > > > like to continue this discussion and so I need to have the
> > > > printed music in front of me. Or visit a library. I'm not sure
> > > > how 'open' the local university music library is to outsiders.
> > > > I doubt that our public library has scores.
> >
> > I wonder whether Bill can really be *bothered* to enter into this
> > discussion. Or whether he'd understand it, if it continued.
> >
> > Of course, we might try to explain it to him.
>
> Ouch. That does sting a bit. But there have been moments when I
> didn't select the perfect words for my posts either, so I shouldn't
> grump....

I suppose it was to do with having spent the last two days recording the
Brahms clarinet quintet, and struggling myself with how to interpret
what Brahms wrote -- which is pretty much all we have of him, alas.

Not to mention struggling home from the pub afterwards.

So whilst in the process of replying to Roger -- Shilcock, not the other
one, thank God -- I had a sudden incredulity attack that I'd apparently
been engaging in a serious conversation with somebody who had been
holding forth about the relationship between what composers write (and
even what they *should* write) and what performers play; but who then
seemed surprised that he might be expected at some point to have looked
at an actual piece of music, by a proper composer.

For example, by Brahms. For the clarinet.

That's all.

I left the Tony W tagline in, as I have again, because it seems to me
that the two cases aren't altogether dissimilar.

Tony
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.....I would hazard a guess that the work would not have sounded much different
(even to ears of the perfect pitch variety) had Eb clarinets, C trumpets,
cor ang, Eb horns all been used also. (Tony Wakefield on Schoenberg Op 9.)

.

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