Klarinet Archive - Posting 000057.txt from 2000/09

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] For Tony Pay re:Schoenberg
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:59:06 -0400

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:57:46 +0100, tony-wakefield@-----.net said:

> For me Tony, you give remarkably short comments, do you not? They seem
> to be almost rude. The two composers story has been going round for
> years. If it ain`t true then why not "explain" that to me in a sincere
> and professional way.

How would you like me to explain it to you, Tony?

The story is a malicious fabrication that effectively demeans the many
young composers who struggle to write music and have it performed, often
against very great odds.

Some of their music may not be very good -- indeed, statistically, most
of it *must be* quite bad -- but the sort of arrogance and ignorance
ascribed to the composers in the story is very rare, if indeed it occurs
at all.

Though I'm sure *you* didn't mean any harm in telling it, I think it's
rather for people who repeat stories like that to explain why they think
that they're true.

> And perhaps, if you feel quite so strongly as what your forthright
> comment appears to me to be, would your mail not have been a good
> opportunity for you to set the record straight according to your own
> experiences?

Yes, it probably would have.

> The question relating to Schoenberg's pitch or dissonance is a genuine
> question. Thank you again for the concise reply. You could have, for
> sincerity`s sake have cross referred me to your other informative
> reply.

I was probably a bit put off by your willingness to join the 'knock
Schoenberg' bandwagon (just as you *appeared* to be willing to join the
'knock young "up-and-coming" composers' bandwagon) without having heard
the masterpiece in question, as in:

> > > I would hazard a guess that the work would not have sounded much
> > > different, (even to ears of the perfect pitch variety) had Eb
> > > clarinets, C trumpets, cor ang, Eb horns all been used also.

> The last comment of mine relating to other "wrongly" pitched instu.
> was intended to be humorous, as was also the re-phrased Shakespeare.
> You have experienced quite a lot of humour coming from my direction in
> here, so I would have thought that perhaps you might have been at
> least on the look-out for just a small wry smile. No?

I liked the Shakespeare, but didn't find the other bit funny.

Why didn't you find *my* post funny, by the way?-)

Tony
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