Klarinet Archive - Posting 000272.txt from 2000/08

From: "David S. Naden" <dnaden@-----.edu>
Subj: RE: [kl] Shifrin & Brymer...
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:14:53 -0400

Unless my memory is incorrect, Brymer played on Boosey and Hawkes
clarinets--possible the 1010. Shifrin uses Buffet. Very different
instruments, and tone. Add that to Brymer's English style, and Shifrin's
American style, the difference just grow.

David S. Naden

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed & Carol Maurey [mailto:edsshop@-----.ca]
Subject: Re: [kl] Shifrin & Brymer...

That's really amazing. I guess if you're going to copy anybody Jack
Brymer's a pretty good choice. I am surprised that the tone is so similar,
though. Brymer was pretty damned English. I always perceived Shifrin as
middle of the road North American.

Ed Maurey
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrea Bergamin <a.bergamin@-----.it>
Subject: [kl] Shifrin & Brymer...

> I've just bought the edition of Brahms' Quintet performed by Shifrin and
the
> Emerson Quartet (1999 DG).
>
> I was listening the CD and I said "Ehi... wait a moment... this is
> Brymer/Allegri!"
>
> So I took my Brymer/Allegri edition (1979 DECCA) and I've done a deep
> comparison.
>
> Well... they are ABSOLUTELY the same performance. The players are
different
> but tone, tempos, phrasing, rallentandi... the rest is the same!
>
> I've played the forth movement with 2 CD players perfectly synchronized:
> well... you have to wait at 1.08 to have just a very little asynchrony.
I've
> sampled the two edition and I've used the left channel of one and the
right
> channel of the other... unbelievable!
>
> I don't know... I don't think it is casual but there is no reason to
> reproduce a performance in every details. Perhaps it is just a
coincidence.
>
>
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