Klarinet Archive - Posting 000440.txt from 2000/07

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: [kl] Whether or not we should do the repeats in K581 M&Trio
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:41:32 -0400

On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 01:55:50 +0100, Tony@-----.uk said:

> On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:44:48 -0700, leeson0@-----.net said:
>
> > Tony Pay wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 06:03:41 -0700, leeson0@-----.net said:
> > >
> > > > If, as you say, the Barenreiter edition of the the quintet says
> > > > "senza replica" that is an editorial addition to the edition. The
> > > > editor would have no way of knowing what the manuscript said.
> > >
> > > What you mean is, it's not in the first edition, right?
> >
> > The first edition of that work has no more authority or authenticity
> > than any other edition. The fact that it was the first printed
> > version gives it no patina of authority. Early editions can often be
> > the worst sources. It may be exactly what Mozart wrote or it could
> > contain 1000 differences in pitch, dynamics, phrasings, even music.
>
> It's just that we're trying to decide whether the 'senza replica' in the
> Barenreiter is by Mozart or is editorial.

Aren't we?

> Given that Mozart's manuscript is unavailable, the best source is the
> first edition.
>
> If 'senza replica' appears in the first edition, then our best guess
> is that Mozart wrote it, as opposed to leaving the matter to
> performance practice.

If not, why not?

> If 'senza replica' isn't in the first edition, it's simply the opinion
> of the Barenreiter editor.

Agreed?

> Does it, in fact, appear in the first edition? I'm sorry to say I
> have no copy in front of me.
>
> Tony

I'd really like a reply to this; I don't think it's too much to ask.

Of course, if I don't get one, I'll find out by some other means.

I don't do the repeats the second and third time anyway, but purely as a
matter of my own personal judgement.

Tony
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