Klarinet Archive - Posting 000713.txt from 2000/05

From: "Marcia S. Bundi" <mbundi@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] Re: Paper-Trained, was Bass Clarinet, Bass Clef in A Transpositions
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 01:58:16 -0400

Dear Richard,

My rather off-hand remark needs clarification! Dr. Maxine Ramey wasn't
insulting improv. players at all; rather, it was self-deprecatory as she
and a bunch of other professors got up to play "Clarinet Polka" (from
paper!) at a jazz venue with the local jazz clarinetist. He wanted them
to join him in improvisation, and that prompted the remark. I've never
heard her improvise, but I live several hours' drive from Missoula and
don't get over that often. She's an excellent player whom I've heard play
in several concerts and recitals. She was a student of Elsa Verdehr.

I totally agree with your opinions about professionals and others needing
all sorts of different skills, and I too thank God that there are places
for all of us!

As to the original thread, I don't think that *all* professionals need to
be able to improvise -- it depends on which venue they play and what is
demanded by that particular job. To expect that *all* professionals be
able to do *all* kinds of playing at those same professional levels is
unreal and unfair. I'm sure that these people *can* and *do* all kinds of
different playing, but make their name and their living playing from
their particular strength.

Transposing is not the same thing as improvisation! Now, if I could just
learn to transpose bass clef in A . . .

Marcia
Great Falls, MT

On Sat, 13 May 2000 13:46:45 -0600 Richard Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.com>
writes:
>Dear Marcia,
>
>Being "paper-trained" is good if one wishes to become a member of a fine
>symphony orchestra and play some of the world's finest music.
>
>Different musical skills are required for different kinds of music.
>Improvisation takes totally different skills. All kinds of good music
can be
>created by those who are "paper-trained" AND by those who can create
>musical excitement within a nano-second.
>
>I can't help but ask you because "One of [your] UM professors" voices
such
>strong opinions, why isn't he either playing with a major symphony or
turning the world on fire with his great improv?
>
>Different kinds of fish in different sized gold fish bowls seem to
require
>different kinds of food. Thank God, someone understood the need for
different sized gold fish bowls!
>
>"Marcia S. Bundi" wrote:
>
>> One of the UM professors described us as "paper-trained."
>>
>> Marcia
>> Great Falls, MT
>>

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