Klarinet Archive - Posting 001393.txt from 2000/04

From: "Emily S" <harvinet@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Gender bias - survey?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:32:50 -0400

Of course not. I thought this survey was just a casual fun thing
anyway.....

>From: Bilwright@-----.net (William Wright)
>Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: Re: [kl] Gender bias - survey?
>Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:38:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Emily S wrote:
>
> <><> Well, not really anonymous. The ones of us that write
>regularly are pretty easy to tell. I'm assuming that Emily, or Bill,
>Paulette, Nancy, Don....etc are pretty self-explanatory
>
>
> Hi, Emily. I read somewhere that you should state your conclusion
>first and then defend it.
> So, in conclusion, I _do_ agree that the more prominent or dramatic
>instances are interesting and sigificant in their own right. But they
>don't necessarily show what is happening in the larger everyday world.
> I suspect that the standard deviation of males vs. females in bands,
>orchestras, ensembles, etc is so large that we cannot hope to gather a
>sample of sufficient size that would justify a conclusion.
>
> Somebody posted (I've already lost it, and I can't remember who)
>that he or she checked 192 recent messages from this list, and males
>accounted for (I forget) maybe 80% of the messages. While I enjoy and
>have participated myself in this discussion, no statistician would
>accept any conclusion that emerged from this survey unless it included
>an analysis of whether posting on the Internet is, in fact, biased
>towards males -- and also whether predominantly only the more notable
>instances are attracting notice and therefore are being posted here.
>
>
>Cheers,
> Bill
>(who wishes there was a clear answer to this question and -- if you care
>-- wouldn't be bothered if clarinetists proved to be either mostly male
>or mostly female -- music is music, and I'm a male, and I like playing
>the clarinet, and I'm having better luck at it than when I tried and
>failed to learn guitar and then piano.)
>
>
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