Klarinet Archive - Posting 000984.txt from 2000/03

From: Topper <leo_g@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] A. Gardelli Bari
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:32:07 -0500

At 07:19 PM -0500 3/29/00, Topper wrote:
>>>FRANCOIS KLOC
>>>Manager of Woodwinds North America
>>>Boosey & Hawkes Musical Instruments, Inc.
>
>Wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Dear Leo,
>>>
>>>Looking at the logo you put on the list make me think that the
>>>instrument was made by Denis Buffet (the Father) is the instrument made
>>>out of box wood? how many keys does the instrument has? if you could
>>>give me more information I may find out for you. There is 90% chances
>>>that the instrument was made between 1825 and 1830 by Denis Buffet. For
>>>the name under it may be the name of the distributor or the player that
>>>first owned the instrument again with more infos I may find out for
>>>sure.
>>>
>>>Musically yours,
>>>
>
>
>Francios,
>
>Thank you for your kind reply.
>
>No, I am sorry. I wish it was a Boxwood Buffet in A, I would trade it for a
>Contrabass in BBb immediatly and probably get it. :-) But I'm glad it is
>not an Albert system instrument. It is a Grenadillawood Boehm system.
>It has a bridged/articulated G#/C#
>
>
>
>The bore at the top of the upper joint is .584" (1.4834 cm) - the bottom of
>the upper is .568 (1.4427 cm)
>
>The taper of the lower part of the bore seems long starting just below the
>F# tone-hole, although I will not put my metal caliper inside to have a
>look)
>
>The bore at the bottom of the lower joint is .820 (2.0828 cm)
>
>The length of the bell is 4.252" (10.8001 cm), and the opening is 2.26
>(5.7404 cm)"
>
>Lower joint length 10.592" (26.9037 cm)
>
>Upper joint length 9.695" (24.6253 cm)

I am sorry. I should have added the length/depth of tenons and sockets so
that the assembled length or entire bore length can be calculaed:

[Original barrel (suspected modified) ]

Mpc. SSocket .7545" (1.9164 cm)

Tenon Socket .7665" (1.9469 cm)

[upper joint]
Barrel Tenon: .7640 (1.9406 cm)

Middle Tenon: .6424" (1.6317 cm)

[Lower joint]
Mid Socket: .6467" (1.6426 cm)

bell Tenon: .8105" (2.0587 cm)

Bell Socket: .8136" (2.0665)

>Original barrel (probably cut to tune sharp) is 2.186" (5.5524 cm)
>
>Extra barrel 2.699 (6.8555)
>
>It has a nickel silver (presumably screw-type) thumb "f" tonehole insert
>with an Inner Diameter of .2716" (0.6899 cm)
>
>
>The inside of the bore is like glass and the wood is so resonant that it
>amplifies the sounds of fingers touching it.
>
>I am anxious for anything you can tell me about this.
>
>
>
>Leo
>
>
>
>
>------------------------reply separator----------------------------
>
>
>
>George,
>
>This must be one of those name puns :-)
>
>eh... `but of of course... ...it is not a high-pitched A = A=465 or a
>low-pitched Bb = A=435 being compared; and not a Bb compared to a C
>thinking the C is a Bb and then mistaking the Bb for an A. Being a Bohem
>with an articulated C#/G# and fork Ab/Eb it must be closer to A@-----. It is
>an A Presumably @-----.
>
>Yes I do not speak French but know what A means, but it was fun to explain.
>
>could have been
>
> Buffet
> Canada Eh
>
>
>:-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Leo
>------------------------------------
>Leo
>
>At 04:02 PM -0500 3/29/00, George Kidder a clarinette du sneezy wrote:
>>Maybe you know this already, but in the "A PARIS", the A is not the pitch -
>>it should be an accented A (except that it is a cap.) and merely means "of
>>Paris" All modern Buffet's say the same - including my Bb R-13. So while
>>yours could be in A, the logo does not mean this.
>>
>>At 09:17 AM 3/29/00 -0600, I wrote:
>>>the upper joint is marked
>>>
>>> *
>>> BUFFET
>>> A PARIS
>>> A.GARDELLI
>>> BARI
>>> *
>
>Cheers, Leo
>Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@-----.com/
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>Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo
>
>
>
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Cheers, Leo
Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@-----.com/
"You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical
instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and
with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for
sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new
items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am
especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data.
Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo

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