Klarinet Archive - Posting 000754.txt from 2000/03

From: "Michael Bryant" <michael@-----.uk>
Subj: [kl] Wagner
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:33:06 -0500

John Newhill unravelled the mystery and the
references for his articles that interested parties need are:
Music and Letter, Volume 55 No 2, (April 1974)
"The Adagio for Clarinet and Strings by Wagner/Baermann"
and
Clarinet and Saxophone Volume 13 No 2 (June 1988)
"The Works of Heinrich Baermann"
Mike Bryant

>Daniel Leeson wrote on 24 March 2000 14:29 about Wagner
>
>
>>Jonathan, the general feeling about musical misinformation is that, once
>>it enters into the body of knowledge and by whatever method it got there
>>and no matter how wrongheaded it is and no matter what proofs are given
>>to show that it is full of doo-doo, no power on earth can ever get it
>>out.
>>
>>It is like a cancer that infects the history of whatever it is the
>>cancer has attached itself to. Five hundred years from now, some poor,
>>benighted student will play a concert at which the Wagner Adagio will be
>>the centerpiece.
>>
>>There is nothing you can do about it, either.
>>
>>Have a nice day.
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>Jonathan Cohler wrote:
>>>
>>> It's amazing how long the mis-information on this piece has persisted
and
>>> been passed along. I remember seeing a performance of this work with
>>> Harold Wright about fifteen years ago, which was already a good fifty
>years
>>> after it was known that the work is by Heinrich Joseph Brmann. Here are
>>> the program notes from my recording "Cohler on Clarinet" (Ongaku
>024-101 -
>>> http://www.ongaku-records.com/ ). I hope these are helpful:
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> Jonathan Cohler
>>>
>>> Adagio from Quintet in No. 3 in E-flat Major, Op. 23 (1820-1821)
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> This piece has been a victim of musicological negligence for more than
>160
>>> years! Brmann was the famous clarinetist for whom Weber wrote most of
>his
>>> clarinet music. Unfortunately for Brmann, Weber wrote his last clarinet
>>> piece in 1816 (the Grand Duo Concertant on this recording), and Brmann
>>> still needed fresh pieces for his concerts. This Adagio is the slow
>>> movement from one of three clarinet quintets for clarinet and string
>>> quartet that Brmann himself composed between 1820 and 1821.
>>>
>>> Shortly after Brmann's death, the music to this piece seems to have
>>> disappeared. In 1926, the slow movement was discovered, but the copy
had
>>> no name on it. For some strange reason, musicologists and the
publishers
>>> decided to attribute this work to Richard Wagner, one of the later great
>>> Romantic composers. If you are willing to forget that it sounds nothing
>>> like Wagner, and that Wagner wrote no solo works for the clarinet, then
>>> this attribution might be reasonable. Otherwise, it is quite a leap of
>>> faith.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, in the earlier part of this century, some musicologists
>>> discovered the error, but the attribution continued until as recently as
>>> ten or fifteen years ago. Fortunately, the entire quintet has been
>>> properly rediscovered and it is published by Musica Rara.
>>>
>>> At 4:37 AM -0500 3/24/0, Roger Shilcock wrote:
>>> >This could be because it's not by Wagner. It's by one of the
Baermanns -
>>> >Heinrich, I think - and comes from a chamber music piece; I don't have
>any
>>> >sources of info. to hand, but I think it's (before rearrangement!) the
>>> >second movement of a clarinet quartet.
>>> >Roger S
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, bob and deborah shaw wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:46:59 -0600
>>> >> From: bob and deborah shaw <theshaws@-----.com>
>>> >> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
>>> >> To: Klarinet <klarinet@-----.org>
>>> >> Subject: [kl] Wagner
>>> >>
>>> >> I have fallen in love with the Wagner Adagio and decided to do some
>>> >> research on the piece. So far I have found tons of info on Wagner's
>>> >> operas, but cannot find anything on the the Adagio for clarinet. Can
>>> >> anyone steer me in the right direction. Do you know of sources where
>I
>>> >> can find info on this piece of music? Thanks so much,
>>> >>
>>> >> Deborah
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>** Dan Leeson **
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