Klarinet Archive - Posting 000165.txt from 2000/03

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: [kl] 'Believes in'
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:45:54 -0500

On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 21:20:23 EST, klarann@-----.com said:

> On Fri, 03 Mar 2000 20:30:15 GMT Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay) writes:
>
> snip
>
> > Unfortunately, 'toys' sound fun, and 'tools' not!
>
> I think the problem here is with the word fun. Fun is diversion,
> entertainment. Satisfaction, accomplishment, work don't carry the
> sense of enjoyment.
>
> I am not finding a word that will convey both.

I was wanting a word with negative connotations, but not too negative,
as in the other thread. Your suggestion of 'superstition' is too
negative. I feel. The other thread explains that.

I think your introduction of 'belief' is close, but used as a verb, as
in, "he believes in ligatures".

You say,

> Superstition has the sense of not based in reality. but is about
> beliefs or actions, not objects.

So, actually, I wanted something related to how we interact with
something, because only then does it draw in the context. 'Obsession'
is good, because it functions as a description as well as a noun.

> How about: fetish, amulet, mascot, juju, talisman or *charm* in the
> sense of an object worn or cherished to ward off evil or attract good
> fortune.
>
> My preference would be for amulet or talisman.

OK, but they're all just objects.

So, my suggestion of 'obsession', or an appropriate use of 'believes
in', is best for what I was trying to convey.

Thanks!

Tony
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