Klarinet Archive - Posting 001083.txt from 2000/02

From: "Jay Webler" <webler@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Throwing down the glove - ligatures
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:05:35 -0500

David,

I read my post again and I'm not sure what you are objecting to. Nowhere did
I tell anyone else to use a Bonade. I merely gave the reasons why I am making a switch
to the Bonade. Nor did I directly tell anyone else to stop using whatever ligature
they are using. Frankly, if they what to use shoelace, that's fine, as far as I am concerned , because it won't affect my
sound at all. But some people might be interested to hear the thought processes that another
Clarinetist is going through, if they are struggling with the same decision. Not everyone can afford a $75.00 ligature.
It is helpful to some to know that there is a less expensive option people should know about it.

Jay Webler
Jay's Clarinet and Percussion

On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:42:59 -0800, DAVID S. NADEN wrote:

>Jay-
>
>First you take a stand, and then you continue to argue your own point about
>ligatures. Let's make it simple. Ligatures are in one
>respect like mouthpieces. What works best for one clarinetist may not work
>as well or at all for another. If you prefer the Bonade
>ligature-for whatever reason you care to use-that's great, because it works
>for you. Other clarinetists prefer Rovners, BGs or
>whatever. In short, there is no argument, because you have found what
>work's for you.
>
>David S. Naden, MMus
>Cal State University Los Angeles
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay D. Webler [mailto:webler@-----.net]
>Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 08:13 AM
>To: 'klarinet@-----.org'
>Subject: RE: [kl] Throwing down the glove - ligatures
>
>I have recently found myself displeased with my Rovner because of a
>perceived deadness is the tone. Because of this I tried the BG and the
>Optimum. I liked both of these ligatures very much, but could not justify
>the cost. Therefore, I went back to my standard Bonade. After a discussion
>with my teacher I decided to try the inverted Bonade and found that was
>everything I was looking for in a ligature with a price that I could live
>with. Since I am presently going through a mouthpiece trial I have to use
>the Rovner because the inverted Bonade appears to put scratches on the
>Mouthpiece. Once I make my final determination on the mouthpiece I intend
>to make the Bonade my standard ligature.
>
>Jay Webler
>Jay's Clarinet and Percussion.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: GrabnerWG@-----.com]
>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:02 AM
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: [kl] Throwing down the glove - ligatures
>
>In a message dated 2/26/00 12:40:26 AM Central Standard Time,
>lgirard@-----.com writes:
>
><< Has anyone experimented with the mid-range Rovner ligatures for Bb
>clarinet
> in a comparison with the BG revelation or Vandoren Optimum? >>
>
>OK.....I'm going to throw down the gauntlet....
>
>I've tried everyone of these ligatures, all manner of Rovners, The BG's, the
>Optimum, etc.
>
>In my opinion, all of these have similar problems, They all seem to diffuse
>and dull the tone quality. Our ears, hearing through the bones in our heads,
>are fooled into thinking we are getting "that dark, chocolately" tone.
>
>I really think it's usually just duller. Depends on the reed actually. A
>very
>bright, shrill reed can be helped, usually at the expense of response.
>
>I'm sticking to OLD, HEAVY metal ligatures.
>
> Walter Grabner
>
>http://www.clarinetxpress.com
>Hand Crafted Clarinet Mouthpieces:
> Bb/A, Eb, Bass
> Clarinet Reed Making Kit
>"Making Clarinet Reeds By Hand"
>
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