Klarinet Archive - Posting 000895.txt from 2000/01

From: Karel Vahala <vahalakv@-----.au>
Subj: Re: [kl] Commercial promotions
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:25:02 -0500

I think Neil is quite right. An occasional reminder by Walter that he exists
and what he does is not unacceptable, but a barrage such as we have been
subjected to is irritating and probably counterproductive anyway.

Karel.

Neil Leupold wrote:

> --- GrabnerWG@-----.com wrote:
>
> > As a service to my mouthpiece customers, I am putting
> > serial numbers on my mouthpieces. <snip>
>
> I don't mean to sound like a pedantic curmudgeon, but I'll
> throw this out to the list in the spirit of "if nobody says
> anything, how are we to know that there is a problem?" This
> is an unmoderated list, but there has been general agreement
> at one point or another that using the list for commercial
> promotions is not entirely appropriate. The occasional one-
> off ad doesn't generally bother me, because they usually come
> & go quickly, e.g.; "I have a Bb clarinet for sale. Email me
> privately if you're interested," or "Sneezy has a new sponsor.
> It's so & so ~ feel free to visit their web page."
>
> There's little question that Walter has contributed greatly
> to the quality of discourse on the list, but Walter, the
> frequency of your posts that relate in large part to your
> fledgling mouthpiece-making enterprise has gotten to the
> point where I've begun deleting your posts out of hand.
> This is something I very much dislike doing, especially
> given the quality of your participation, but I've begun
> to feel like you're using Klarinet as a free bulletin
> board to advertise your new business and products. The
> automatic signature line of your emails is a convenient
> and inobtrusive way to let people know that you offer
> a service, in addition to the rich knowledge and insight
> that you contribute otherwise. And I don't know for sure,
> but you might also be sponsor of Sneezy(?), which affords
> you additional exposure on Mark Charette's web site.
>
> I know that there are no hard & fast rules on an unmod-
> erated email list, but the Klarinet community has always
> leaned in the direction of discouraging habitual commer-
> cial promotion on the list. It's hard to write a message
> like this without feeling like I'm picking on Walter out
> of some ulterior personal motive, but I promise that this
> is not the case. In a very general spirit, I'm bringing
> the issue up to emphasize what I've always considered a
> beneficial and sensible idea about this treasure that we
> call Klarinet. If that idea has changed, I guess every-
> body will let me know it. Up 'til now, I've considered
> it a valuable convention.
>
> I welcome responses, but please try not to flame me. I
> don't have a martyr complex.
>
> ~ Neil
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