Klarinet Archive - Posting 000414.txt from 2000/01

From: Neil Leupold <leupold_1@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Herbert vs. Karajan
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:53:02 -0500

I've been the victim of some fairly sloppy thinking today.
I'm not sure if Dave Sandusky's dictionary citation is meant
to defend my prior post, or if it is meant to further sub-
stantiate Dan's point. Ultimately, I have to concede that
the more traditional interpretation of the word 'boycott' --
with respect to organized censure and/or sanctions -- is the
relevant one. Sorry for the vacuous posts of late (again).

-- Neil

--- Dave Sandusky <daves@-----.com> wrote:
> From www.webster.com:
>
> Main Entry: boy·cott
> Pronunciation: 'boi-"kät
> Function: transitive verb
> Etymology: Charles C. Boycott died 1897 English land agent in Ireland who was
> ostracized for refusing to reduce rents
> Date: 1880
>
> : to engage in a concerted refusal to have dealings with (as a person, store,
> or organization) usually to express disapproval or to force acceptance of
> certain conditions
> - boycott noun
> - boy·cott·er noun
>
> Daniel Leeson wrote:
>
> > Neil. Think about the word "boycott." You mean to tell
> > me that if you find some composer's music dull and boring,
> > you get groups of people with street signs that say, "Stop
> > listening to XXX's music. It is dry and boring."?
> >
> > Or you initiate a newspaper campaign that says, "If you
> > sponsor XXX's dry and boring music, we are going to stop
> > buying your products."
> >
> > Don't you mean something else other that "boycott"???
> > If you find the music dull, stop listening to it. But
> > boycott it? "Boycott" is a political action of some
> > consequence.
> >
> > Are we simply having a communication problem? If so,
> > I will boycott you and you'll starve.
> >
> > Neil Leupold wrote:
> > >
> > > --- Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > but even considering the contemporary issue you bring
> > > > up would not have excluded Victor Herbert in my mind.
> > >
> > > That's right. As I admit in a subsequent post, my logic
> > > was completely fuzzy. Sorry about that. But your state-
> > > ment in another previous post bears comment -- that finding
> > > a composer's music dry and mechanical is a poor reason to
> > > boycot their music. Hmm....is it really a poor reason?
> > > One need not have strong political feelings about a com-
> > > poser in order to want to avoid them. If you simply hate
> > > the manner in which they wrote, and their music just sounds
> > > terrible to you, what better reason could you have for ac-
> > > tively and willfully avoiding exposure to it?
> > >
> > > -- Neil
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> > Dan Leeson
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