Klarinet Archive - Posting 000218.txt from 2000/01

From: klara <klahall@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] ghost tones
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:05:52 -0500

On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:45:54 -0700 (MST) Shouryu Nohe <jnohe@-----.edu>
writes:
>
>This sounds like a common problem I've more commonly called a grunt,
>existing between said A and the C above it usually. I am still dealing
>with this problem (have been doing so for nearly two years!). My
solution
>was two fold: increased air support and raised tongue position.
>
>(But only think eeeeeh with the tongue, not the lips, because then the
>corners of your mouth go back and your pitch goes all funky.)

This varies from what you describe, the change i identify is in raising
the soft palate.
i discovered this from voice lessons, where i learned to be aware and
control of the soft palate, then realized the sensation of the raised
soft palate was familiar for smooth register connections on clarinet.

i don't know if we are doing the same thing by different sensations OR
because of different structures make differing adjustments.

>This may or may not work for you - give it a whirl. It's best to see if
>this helps by applying this to long tones on each of the notes, starting
>with the lowest proceeding to the highest. Hold each note 12-16 counts
>(MM=60) starting at FF and decrescendoing steadily, reaching MF halfway,
>and the last two counts at PP. If the grunt is significantly reduced
>while doing this and applying increased support and high tongue arch,
then
>you've found (at least part of) your trouble area. Then just do these
>excersizes continually until the phase out.
>
As i wrote in reply to Nicholas, i have worked from the pianissimo end,
when specifically aware of grunts. Either works.

Also i just checked, and the grunts are also apparent in register slurs,
especially when tongueing the clarion note. This is where i begin the
refining for me and students.

Also helpful that i can intentionally sustain a grunt/ghost sound for
demonstration for students. Do it on purpose, then not, clarifies the
differences.

annhall,
who is enjoying the exchange of ideas.

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