Klarinet Archive - Posting 001001.txt from 1999/10

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] re: playing the Clarinet from behind the student
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:49:00 -0400

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:39:55 -0500 (CDT), el2@-----.edu said:

> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Tony Pay wrote:
>
> > There's really a *law* against physical contact of that sort in your
> > country?????
>
> As it has been explained to me, if the person being touched feels
> threatened, pressured or harrassed, it can be considered improper, and
> is against the law. And, they can decide after that fact that that is
> how they interpreted the contact. Any explanations of innocent intent
> on the part of the accused would be immaterial.

So, let me get this straight, because I really do want to understand it.

Let's say this occurs in front of other students, because I do
understand that it might be inadvisable in private -- after all, even
doctors try to make sure that someone else is in attendance when they
carry out examinations.

You say that if I explain to the student what I want to do (and why) and
give him/her the free option to decline, and then on the student's
acceptance do exactly what I said I would do;

then the fact that I had explained my intent, in front of others, and
moreover explained that it was 'innocent' in the sense that the
described action to him/her was done for the reason I stated and no
other, and that the student had accepted that, would have no bearing on
my culpability if he/she subsequently decided to change her mind, and
then interpreted his/her acceptance of the contact as being the result
of threat, pressure or harrassement?

What seems to me more likely is that the law is designed to protect
people; and in my view if we take care of people, and take care that
they experience being taken care of (for some students this would be
impossible, perhaps, but I suppose that knowing our students a little
bit, we can use the sort of judgement we possess as human beings to
avoid being involved in these sort of situations with *them*), then an
educator who *doesn't* behave in a normal human fashion with his/her
students is the educator who has 'rocks in the head'.

Tony
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