Klarinet Archive - Posting 000936.txt from 1999/10

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] should the embouchure move?
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:29:42 -0400

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:23:40 -0500, mgustav@-----.com said:

> I knew of a teacher who would stand behind the student and hold the
> clarinet for him/her while the student had the clarinet in their
> mouth. The student would close their eyes in order not to see the
> note the teaching was fingering. The teacher would say blow and
> almost always the student would either honk or squeak supposedly
> proving that every note required subtle changes of oral cavity, lip
> pressure and embouchure. I'm not sure how scientific this is but it
> did show that there are subtle changes in the mouth and embouchure
> with notes that are even very close to one another.
>
> Mark

There's an interesting wrinkle to this one, though. See my post on
'Hippopotami blowing clarinets':

http://www.sneezy.org/Databases/Logs/1998/12/000764.txt

Tony
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:35:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: [donax-m] bending notes down

Tony Pay has suggested (in part) about bending notes downward:

>It's rather like learning to whistle -- once you start to catch on, you
>know where to 'look' in order to get better. And the tongue and throat
>positions involved in the bend are so far away (in parameter space) from
>what we normally do when we blow the clarinet that you have to make a
>rather extreme change in order to find them.

I've been trying to figure how to put into words what I do to bend notes
downward. The changes seem to be very slight and with the tongue only.
While trying to bend notes for years, I had never thought before about what
was successful. I think that Tony's "whistle" analogy is closer to the
truth (for me) than he might imagine.

Indeed, the motions of the tongue for bending from C above the staff down
to G seem to be essentially the same as I do to whistle the same notes.

I suggest whistling the bend first and then applying the same change,
whatever works for you, to the clarinet.

Don Yungkurth (clarinet@-----.net)

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