Klarinet Archive - Posting 000918.txt from 1999/10
From: "Daniel Stover" <kasparguy@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Bb Soprano to Bass Clarinet
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:45:52 -0400
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From: "Edwin V. Lacy" <el2@-----.edu>
Subject: Re: [kl] Bb Soprano to Bass Clarinet
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:12:37 -0500 (CDT)
I am a woodwind doubler, and I'm afraid that I can't agree with any of the
above. But, I'm not sure that what you are describing is actually anchor
tonguing as it is commonly understood. For example, on the flute, do you
really "anchor" your tongue somewhere, such as on the lower teeth, while
tongueing with the middle part of the tongue in the top of the mouth. If
so, I would say that according to all the understanding I can muster of
articulation on the flute, this would in no way be described as normal.
I play all the woodwinds, and never anchor tongue on any of them, no
matter how small or how large, no matter what angle the instrument enters
the mouth, and no matter whether it is a single reed, a double reed, or no
reed. Further, I am very diligent when teaching to try to detect the
firsts signs of anchor tonguing and to root out the problem before it
becomes pervasive or habitual. That's what my ear tells me I have to do.
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Then my question is, on sax, with the mouthpiece entering at nearly a 90
degree angle, how can it still be possible to tongue tip-to-tip? You'd be
slicing your tongue on the edge of the tip of the reed. I know my teacher
says it's better to tongue slightly lower on the reed.
However, I can't single tongue due to complications from being born with a
cleft pallet and a final skin graft not taking (leaving a passage between
the roof of my mouth and my nasal cavity). I've anchor tongued since the
very first day i started articulating and have neither had any problems with
it or had anyone able to tell otherwise.
on flute, i don't anchor my tongue behind my lower teeth, but i rest the tip
on my teeth and the part of my tongue that touches the reeds when i anchor
tongue on any reed instrument rests against the top teeth except when i'm
blowing where it moves back and creates an opening... (it's rather hard to
explain properly.)
I know many fine players who anchor tongue (my clarinet teacher uses it some
on bass... says he can actually tongue faster on bass using anchor tongue)
and you would never know they were unless they told you. I say if it
doesn't compromise anything, why force a student to change it?
Daniel
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jennifer Jones <JJONES@-----.EDU>
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Subject: Re: [donax-m] bending notes down
Richard Bush wrote:
> Would you mind going into more detail? Is an open tip more or less flexible than
> a small tip opening? We can't read your mind and it seems you have something to
> tell us. Please do.
> Jennifer Jones wrote:
> > It also may be the mouthpiece... large tip opening vs. small tip opening?
Sorry for being so cryptic... There have been so many discussions on
mouthpiece and reed set up, that I thought it might prompt someone with a bit
more experience to elaborate.
I think that with a more open tip, there is more room to vary pitch by
tightening and loosening the embouchure while still getting sound. This is
just my intuition. I hope somebody who knows more will respond.
I've also noticed that I can usually vary pitches more with soft reeds (Mitchel
Lurie & vandoren 2.5s & 3s) than what I normally use (vandoren 3.5). It sounds
like a soft reed and an open mouthpiece might be even better.
Hope I haven't caused more harm than good.
Good luck.
-Jennifer H. Jones
> >
> > Matt Goff wrote:
> > > > What I am wondering is if anyone has any other ways of thinking about what
> > > > needs to go on physically to achieve the drop in pitch. Is it something
> > > > that happens gradually (like you can gradually get lower and lower as you
> > > > practice it more) or when you can do it, it happens all at once? Any
> > > > thoughts would be appreciated.
> > > >
> >
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