Klarinet Archive - Posting 000274.txt from 1999/10

From: "Michael Bryant" <michael@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] re: Stamitz confusion
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:13:33 -0400

Dr Robert Titus's thesis on
"The Solo Music for Clarinet in the 18th Century"
University of Iowa 1962, comments on Boese.

UMI number RSD 62-02412

The following may also be useful:
No1 E flat "The Darmstadt" Ms destroyed in the war Copy made by Boese
Published by Hoffmeister 1956
No 2 B flat Ms, also at Darmstadt, destoyed in the war. Boese made a copy.
Copy also at BN Paris
PhD thesis by
Jerome Bunke NY University 1971
No 3 in B flat. Ms National Library in Vienna (Mus Hs 5865) Mod. Ed. by IMC
and Peters
No 4 in F For C clarinet. Sieber edition in BL Paris (K1795) EMB and Schott
Concerto in E flat (Boese No 5) BN Paris K 1795 but by Ernst Eichner!!!
No 5 in B flat (Boese No 6) Seiber edition in BN Paris K 1796
No 6 in B flat (Boese No 7) Darmstadt - destroyed. Boese had it on film. Set
of Seiber parts at Wloclaw University Poland 52496 Muz. Schloss Harburg has
this concerto arranged for oboe. Oboe version published by Simrock 1963 and
Breitkopf 1970
No7 in B flat (Boese No 8) Ms in Vienna (Mus Hs 5866) and Seiber edition in
BN Paris K 1798
No 8 in E flat (boese No 9) Ms Thurn und Taxis, Sikorski 1953
No 9 in B flat (Boese No 10) Ms in Vienna Published by Sikorski as "No 10"
in 1958
No 10 in E flat (Boese No 11) Ms in Vienna Mus Hs 5864 Schirmer edition 1968
A note on the Ms
indicates that this work was a collaborative effort by Josef Beer and
Stamitz

Michael Bryant

David Blumberg wrote 10 October 1999 11:53
Subject: [kl] re: Stamitz confusion

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>(EST) From: "O'Neile & Fisher" <redcedar@-----.au> Subject: [kl]
>Stamitz Clarinet Concerto I am seeking assistance in identifying a Carl
>Stamitz Clarinet Concerto. I have the sheet music and a recording of a
>work, both labelled as the (K)Carl Stamitz Concerto for Clarinet #11 in Eb.
>They are clearly different works, and one at least is mis-labelled. The
>recording is of Sabine Meyer on an EMI CD, #CDC 7 54842 2, tracks 4-6,
>performing a work nominated as "Clarinet Concerto No. 11 in E flat", the
>three movements being labelled Allegro/Aria (Andante moderato)/Rondo alla
>Scherzo (Allegro moderato). The sheet music is from the Schirmer's Library
>of Musical Classics Vol 1849, labelled "Concerto in Eb for Clarinet",
>arranged by Christmann, the three movements being labelled
>Allegro/Siciliano/Rondeau. The Preface to the sheet music contains the
>following reference: "In Helmut Boese's authoritative dissertation... this
>concerto is listed as the eleventh." Not unnaturally, I believe one of
>these to be incorrectly labelled. But which one? I've checked Groves, and a
>footnote simply records that Boese has listed 12 clarinet concertos
>attributable to Carl Stamitz. I am unable to access Boese's work, and if
>it's in German, it would be inaccessible to me anyway. I don't know which
>of the Stamitz works were in Eb, but have recordings which suggest that his
>Concerto #1 was in "F", both #3 & #10 in "Bb", and both #7 & #11 in "Eb".
>My recording of #7 also bears no resemblance to the sheet music. I have no
>further knowledge of the other Carl Stamitz concertos. Ultimately, I wish
>to obtain the sheet music to match the CD recording of the alleged #11. My
>local sheet music supplier has access to a data-base which, on this
>occasion, has been of little help. Is someone on the List able to assist
>me? Thanks, Michael
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>Michael, I could have helped you if you asked. I both have the recording
>(Meyer), and the music, along with the Accompaniment you desire. The
>Stamitz Concerto in Eb is published by Sikorski, and has Ed. Nr. 255K. on
>the music. It is the Concerto #11 in Eb, and is the 4-6 track on the Meyer
>recording. I even had room on one of your CD's I just sent out. I bought
>mine in Gent, Belgium back in 1993 at ClarFest.
>I saw Michael Bryant's posting, and this music that I have has an 11 on it
>(though his posting mentions a 9). It matches Sabine's recording CDC 754842
>2, so call it want you want.
>
>David Blumberg
>playit@-----.com
>http://www.mytempo.com
>
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