Klarinet Archive - Posting 000769.txt from 1999/08

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] RE:German Silver (was: Selmer C "star" clarinet)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:02:00 -0400

I sent a message about this yesterday (25/8). The nickel silver used as a
bas for plating is much more yellow in hue than the "German silver"
(whatever its present-day composition) used formerly for unplated keywork.
>From what previous contributors have written, the metal Buffet plates over
has an even higher copper content than this nickel silver.
Roger Shilcock

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Mark Weinstein wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:52:34 -0500
> From: Mark Weinstein <cpaok@-----.net>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] RE:German Silver (was: Selmer C "star" clarinet)
>
> Lets be SPECIFIC, OK ? My repairman spoke of German SILVER .... NOT "nickel
> silver".
>
> Based upon what he related to me .... nickel-silver is just fine. However,
> he SPECIFICALLY talked about the use in Clarinets (Evette, etc) of another
> compund that had DIFFERENT metals than those used in "nickel-silver" keys.
> AND. that compound of metals was referred to as "German Silver".
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.net>
> To: klarinet <klarinet>
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [kl] RE:German Silver (was: Selmer C "star" clarinet)
>
>
> >Are you SURE that's what your repairman told you? I could be wrong, but it
> is
> >my understanding that most all woodwind keywork is made of German nickel
> >silver. The exceptions are brass keywork on saxophones (and some of them
> are a
> >two-toned combination of brass and nickel rods) and high end flute and
> piccolos
> >that have solid silver keywork that is silver plated after the key pieces
> are
> >silver soldered together.
> >
> >Some of the best and hardest nickel silver keywork has 18% nickel content.
> >
> >Mark Weinstein wrote:
> >
> >> FWIW:
> >>
> >> My repairman has stated that he prefers NOT to to work with "german
> silver",
> >> indicating he had encountered problems working with it in the past.
> >>
> >> mark weinstein
> >> ***************
> >> From: Michael Cogswell <Michael_Cogswell@-----.com>
> >>
> >> "Alicia: German Silver gets the yellowish tint from copper, not gold.
> It
> >> is an alloy of copper, nickel and zinc."
> >>
> >> From: "ABFlint" <abflint@-----.net>
> >>
> >> "My Selmer CT* keys were polished professionallly after many years. In
> fact
> >> I had never had them truly cleaned and I was amazed at the color. It is a
> >> dull finish but yet a light gold. I know nickel usually when I see it
> and I
> >> was told on 2 occasions that it was "German silver" which contained real
> >> gold. My horn is marked Selmer Paris, France. thanks for the
> >> mouthpiece-reed--ligature combo hints. I intend to order a Rovner soon."
> >>
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