Klarinet Archive - Posting 000203.txt from 1999/07

From: Christian Budde <emv080@-----.de>
Subj: RE: [kl] New Chester edition of the Stravinsky 3 Pieces
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:29:03 -0400

Thanks, Tony for the interesting comments.

Now I have a question, too: I ran over the three pieces in February
and bought the Chester edition (I don't think, I am able to perform
these someday, but had big fun practising). I don't know enough about
Stravinsky's theoretical background to decide about typo or not, but
the discussion of the Bb or B in bar 19 leads me to the question, if
there is someone here who can enlighten me (or us) about how the
pieces are structured, which scales are defined to get a better base
for deciding?

In diatonical scales it is often obvious when there is a typo. I must
admit that I cannot decide, which way bar 19 has to be played.

On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Tony Pay wrote:

> Two things about that: Hare explicitly notes the differences between
> 1151 and MS in some significant places. For example, although he
> decides (wrongly, in my view) to choose a Bb over a B natural in bar 19,
> he gives us all the information necessary to do the opposite.
>
> Then, I remember talking to Charles Rosen about his attempts to get
> Stravinsky to commit himself about inconsistencies in the piano music,
> some of which he was about to record -- in several cases, Stravinsky
> said that he didn't know, couldn't remember and that it didn't matter.
>
> In fact, Stravinsky was often inconsistent about what he wanted. He
> engaged in considerable discussion in print over other people's tempi in
> the Rite, and recorded it himself several times. Yet when you put all
> the evidence together, and try to make up your mind 'what he wanted',
> you begin to wonder whether Stravinsky actually existed, or was dreamed
> up by several ghost-writers.
>

Does this mean that Stravinsky himself did not know what he wanted or
that he just didn't care?

[snip]

> I also much prefer the B natural in bar 19.

Why is this so? Is this just 'feeling' or do you have other reasons?

Just curious,
Christian

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