Klarinet Archive - Posting 000146.txt from 1999/04

From: David Renaud <studiorenaud@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] Material responses
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:20:57 -0500

>>>In the clarinet, what it is that vibrates is the air column. Imagine
an
insignificant little air molecule inside a clarinet, bouncing against
the
hard, shiny inside of a piece of dense grenadilla wood. What are the
chances that the air molecule could cause the wood to vibrate? Not too
good, I would say.<<<<

This fly's in the face of experience,
making me critical of these arguments.
I feel the bell vibrate to the touch,
so can my wife and childern,
and anyone else that cares to experience it by touch.
So those "Little air molecules" as one person ridiculed it are making
the material vibrate.

>>>Ed Lacy is quite right to argue against "how things feel"
by saying that this subject is not religion, it's science.<<<<

Did Ed Imply this is like a religious experience??
because of my use of the word belief based on experience..

Lets not confuse belief with religion.
Every time we get in a car, on a plane, or walk down the
street we exercise beliefs based on experience.
As a critical thinker it is logically sound to be
critical of a theory that fly's in the face experience.

>>>: the assertion that holding the barrel while playing
and open G produces a different character in the sound is a very
questionable statement because it can be immediately challenged. But
if one does hear a different character of sound when doing this
experiment, at least one dozen different things can be responsible
for this alleged difference, none of which are related to the
conclusion that was offered. For example, the act of grabbing the
barrel while playing can alter the position of the instrument in
the mouth.<<<<<<

No movement---Keeping the arm in position above the barrel.
And No reed slippage.
And I'm far, far, far from a beginner.
making a good part of my living performing for 20 years.

>>> I offer yet a third: the person doing the experiment believes that
there will
be a difference and, therefore, hears one<<<<

My wife hears the difference at 10 feet, so do the kids.

As for people that do not hear a difference,
there could be dozens of reasons for that also.
And I could list many professional musicians that do.

>>>>Read the KLARINET files on this subject. Lacy is light years ahead
of you on this technical matter.<<<<

So I have been..
After scanning a couple hundred articles on materials. Its
seems experts like Mr. Fobes, and Mr Pyne that have spent a lifetime
working and testing materials are convinced there is an effect of
material.
I'm more incline to trust them, as it is consistent with experience.

Sincerely
David Renaud

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