Klarinet Archive - Posting 001147.txt from 1999/03

From: haydenmusic@-----.com
Subj: Re: [kl] Tuners - what's a good one to buy?
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:05:54 -0500

There is one thing I would like to know. How did clarinetists or musicians
get along without a tuner before they were invented? I guess everybody was
out of tune back then and the music sounded awful.
I think that clarinetists have to re-examine the use of tuners for
everyday practice. What are those two things sticking out on the side of
your heads. They are called ears and that's the best tuner in the world.
Are you going to take your tuner and put it on your stand when you perform.
Maybe they should invent a tuner with an earpiece that alerts you when
your(you yourself) are out of tune. How about the person playing next to
you. Do you think every note is in tune with your instrument. It is up
to all the musicians to listen to each other and tune as you play in
relationship to each note. Clarinetists or any musician needs to learn
this, and an electronic tuner is no help.
When I studied clarinet with my teacher(David Weber) we tuned to Concert
A with a tuning fork (the old time ones mounted on hollow block of wood and
you would have to make it vibrate when you tuned the note. The rest was up
to you to listen and tune relative to Concert A. What happens when the
instrument warms up or cools down(I guess you have to pull out your tuner
and start all over again)
Also Dave Weber would give his students a chromatic exercise that was a
warm up and played at the beginning of each lesson . He would play along
with you and change the tuning on each note, so that you learned to listen
and adjust to him. The constant use of electronic tuners is an injustice
to all musicians.
Aaron Hayden
-----Original Message-----
From: James P Reed <James.P.Reed@-----.net>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 6:17 PM
Subject: [kl] Tuners - what's a good one to buy?

>Help!
>
>Although my instructor checks me against a tuner at my weekly lessons,
>I'd like to do so at home. So, I bought a Seiko ST-747 Extended Range
>Chromatic Auto-Tuner from the WW&BW. At the moment, I'm ready to put it
>under the rear tire of my car and backup up.
>
>Every note I check plays flatter than the proverbial pancake and when I
>talk to the tuner about it's lack of cooperation, I register very high.
>My thoughts are, quite simply, we are not compatible.
>
>Therefore, I'm willing to start searching for a better tuner.
>
>My instructor has a Korg AT2 which I like. Recently, my playing has
>improved enough that I check to be in tune on most notes. Other than my
>instructors tuner and my own, I know nothing about the little beasts.
>
>Browsing the WW&BW catalog simply sends my head spinning. Should I buy
>one of the following?
>
>Seiko ST800
>Seiko ST-909
>Yamaha TD-1
>BOSS Tuner TU12H
>Korg AT1
>Korg AT2
>Pickboy Automatic Chromatic Tuner
>something else, not listed here
>or, even the Qwik Time Chromatic Tuner
>
>I can't say money is no issue. What I can say is I'm willing to pay to
>have a good tuner I can understand, easily use, and rely on.
>
>At the moment, I have a Selmer Series 9 clarinet, a Yamaha YAS-23 alto
>sax, and a Gemeinhardt SP2 flute, all of which I would like to use a
>tuner with. And, I expect to add another Selmer clarinet, a tenor sax
>and a soprano sax to my collection in the next year or so.
>
>I started to search the klarinet archives for information on tuners and
>came up with 3157 hits on my first try so I decided to address the list,
>in the hope that some of you might be able to help me with the quandry
>of what constitutes a good tuner, so I can buy something I can use and
>understand.
>
>Any advice, opinions, or shared experiences about tuners will certainly
>help me make a more informed purchase than I am capable of at the
>moment.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help and information about this issue.
>
>Jim
>
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