Klarinet Archive - Posting 000549.txt from 1999/02

From: "James Fay" <n3hpz@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] New Oliveri reeds
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:19:01 -0500

I still have tons of old Oliveri Tempered reeds (#4) and never really could
get them to vibrate resonantly. Even had a mouthpiece made for them, but
still couldn't get that vibrant kind of resonance.

The newer Oliveris seem to vibrate better and feel more resonant than the
old Oliveris. Admittedly, tons of stuff has changed on my setup, so I just
now grabbed a box of old Tempered #4s and tried them.

The newer ones are thicker than the old ones in the middle right at the
start of the cut and stay thicker about halfway or more up the vamp. The
fairly thick spine tapers more sharply to the edges than the old ones did.
The new ones are also thicker on the side rails most all of the way up
(thickest of any reed I've ever tried). The cane on the new ones seems
slightly denser than the old ones, but note quite as dense as Vandoren cane.
The fibers running thru the new reeds seem pretty strong. The tips are
thinner than the old ones.

I think that the reed fibers are stronger than on Vandorens, but that the
pith (wood in-between) is softer than Vandorens. This also might explain
vibrancy, but probably its the balance between cane properties and a cut
that brings out the best of those properties.

I somehow think that the success I seem to have with these is that they take
to my adjustments and my setup (Moennig R-13, Greg Smith #1, BG lig, custom
rubber barrell) better than Vandorens. I use Ben Armato's book on reed
adjustment (scrape heart till it blows at piano, balance lower sides, then
balance top sides, then find hard spots on tip).

The narrowness of the reeds seems also to contribute to their vibrancy. Any
reed that is wider than the lay of the mouthpiece always for me seems to
benefit by being narrowed, especially in response.

Talked to Oliveri twice by phone. He does indeed claim this to be French
cane, although he was very interested in my growing cane in Maryland and was
also interested in Pete Fountain's claimed success in growing cane in New
Orleans.

Personally, if he used cane from Arizona, California, or Mexico, and it
played well, I wouldn't mind.

Can also order reeds directly from him:

Oliveri Reeds
7609 E. Speedway Blvd.
Tucson, AZ 85715
Phone 1-800-346-3733
$13.25/10, 3-box min. on order

I think the greater vibrancy is a combination of cane and cut.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred <fsheim@-----.com>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [kl] New Oliveri reeds

>Do you mean that Olivieri has stopped using Arizona cane? How do the new
>reeds compare to ones of lets say the past 5 to 7 years. I have been
>having bad luck with them recently. (I buy a load of reads every year and
>store them for aging) I have been using Olivieris since 1963. I wish I
>could still get the UNTEMPERED reeds- they often turned into JEWELS.
>
>fred (fsheim@-----.com)
>
>At 02:34 PM 2/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>I've been having good luck recently with some samples of Oliveri reeds
>>gotten from repairman.
>>
>>Oliveri is now using cane from France and has changed his cut slightly. On
>>the telephone, he said he's still working on perfecting the tempering (a
>>resin) formula for this new cane and cut.
>>
>>I normally use a Vandoren V-12 3-1/2 (some scraping), and found the
Oliveri
>>3-1/2 slightly too hard and the 3's to be just about right for me.
>>
>>They seem to be narrower, slightly thicker at the heel, thinner at the
tip,
>>and thicker at the rails (all in comparison to Vandoren V-12, 3-1/2).
>>
>>In all, they simply seem to vibrate and take to adjusting better for me.
>>
>>Jim Fay
>>
>>
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