Klarinet Archive - Posting 000145.txt from 1999/02

From: "Steven J Goldman, MD" <gpsc@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Bore Oil (Planas Article)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:00:51 -0500

Well, I would have agreed with that (although it is maker and possibly batch
specific), but if the Planas article's claim is correct, black wood
instruments don't get impregnated (the same claim my adolescent patients
would have me believe). In that case, you would have to oil the instrument
rather soon, actually. Thus a little correctly applied coat of oil would
still buy a bit of assurance.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Shilcock
[mailto:roger.shilcock@-----.uk]
Subject: RE: [kl] Bore Oil (Planas Article)

Shouldn't you in fairness add (4) many instruments are *already*
thoroughly
impregnated with oil before they ever reach the hands of a player?
rjs

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Steven J. Goldman M.D. wrote:

> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:22:31 -0600
> From: "Steven J. Goldman M.D." <gpsc@-----.com>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Bore Oil (Planas Article)
>
> Mark,
>
> OK, now I've read the whole thing. It does not change my opinion at all.
The
> article is flawed by the incorrect assumption that the oil has to be
> absorbed to work. Mr. Planas correctly states that cracking is caused by
> uneven absorption of moisture (one of several reasons by the way), and he
> correctly recommends careful drying of the instrument as the most
important
> thing you can do to prevent this. But that is JUST what proper oiling
helps
> in doing, whether it is absorbed or on the surface. The skin of dried
> linseed oil is much more then "very cosmetic", it is very water repellant.
> And all the examples of how incorrect oiling can ruin the instrument carry
> no weight whatsoever. If you perform any maintenance improperly it will be
> detrimental. Improper reed prep can make a fair reed into an unusable one.
> Does this mean that no one should prepare a reed. Of course not. One
should
> learn how to properly prepare it.
>
> Depending on the luck of the draw, a black wood instrument may not need
> oiling, pre-warming, etc. but you will only find out which type yours is
> when it cracks.
>
> In summary, every argument against oiling is flawed by three errors:
>
> 1) Not differentiating proper from improper oiling.
> 2) A basic misunderstanding of what the oil is doing and if it has to be
> absorbed
> 3) Over generalizing from the fact that many black wood instruments are
> strong enough to withstand the moisture they absorb to all black wood (or
> worse all wood) instruments are strong enough to withstand this.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charette@-----.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 1321
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Bore Oil
>
>
> Re: Planas
>
> Did you read the whole article? There was a lot more to it, but I only
> excerpted a portion.
>
> There are some who feel that the _penetration_ into the wood is the
> desired effect.
> Mr. Planas does discuss the other oils, too - but I brought up only one
> small area - the section on oil penetration.....
>
>
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