Klarinet Archive - Posting 001093.txt from 1999/01

From: Edmund William White <ewwhite@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Rudeness and humility
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:52:02 -0500

In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?!?"
Take time to reflect on the happier things in life; warm fuzzies, good
music, and being surrounded by your fellow musicians........not the shroud
of negativity that often permeates this listserv or cracked Buffet
Prestige bass clarinets or CPA's turned pop-saxaphonists raking in more
money than we can all imagine, combined. Revel in your health, good taste
in music, and choice to play a superior instrument. That's all for now,
say Ed, high on topical Lidocaine...........

Edmund William White
ewwhite@-----.edu

P.S. - Ed's words of wisdom.
: The solar is followed by the LUNAR,
: which is followed by the SOLAR,
: which is followed by McDonald's and Coca-Cola.
: The point is; no matter what the outcome of the battle,
: the day goes on with more french-fries and SODA!

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Roger Garrett wrote:

> At 01:41 PM 1/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
> Roger wrote:
> > My original posts were simply made
> >>to ask questions, which I felt were satisfatorilly answered - even if I do
> >>not agree with all the information presented.
> >
> > Excuse, me Roger, but your original posts to my comments on
> >"subjective and objective, was riddled with one knee jerk reaction after
> >another to individual sentences or statements, without reading the whole
> >and spending any time thinking about it. You said as much as you neared the
> >end of my post. You could have saved yourself a lot of time by simply
> >considering the wholly formed presentation before you began to
> >inappropriately comment on its' individual parts.
>
> Please forgive me for disagreeing with you. Of course, I am not asking you
> to agree with me - just saying that I don't agree with you. If that is the
> way you read it - my apologies.
>
> I'm not trying to insult you, but just to recommend that when
> >someone presents a document to you that contains information gleaned from
> >years of experience and thinking about those things that you give it a
> >little reflection and thought yourself before you respond; otherwise, you
> >may waste your time by making a whole series of inappropriate comments and
> >criticisms which may well evaporate once you reflect on the whole matter.
>
> Thank you for pointing that out to me.
>
> > If after due consideration, reflection and an attempt to test out
> >or "prove" these ideas yourself you still see problems, questions and
> >objections, I would think that your response will be more to the point
> >and beneficial to all.
>
> Again, please forgive me for disagreeing with you. I have every right to
> say that and then not say why - especially if I feel it would be pointless
> in this conversation. I simply wanted to have a clarification of your
> statement regarding a "poor" clarinet.
>
> >Roger, that's true, I was responding, not asserting out of the blue.
>
> My most sincere apologies to you if that is the way my post sounded. It
> certainly was not intended to imply that you were "asserting out of the blue."
>
> >The R-13; that's another matter. Whatever its' virtues, I am increasingly
> >convinced as I see improvements offered by those who are thoughtful,
> >knowledgeable and creative that to continue in the direction of the R-13,
> >acoustically speaking , is not the best thing for the clarinetists
> >freedom for music making on the clarinet.
>
> Then do you feel it is a poor clarinet? That was the word in your last
> post that I responded to that I wanted you to clarify. Was the word "poor"
> inclusive of the R-13 - of course - I am asking for your opinion. I think
> the list would place great value on hearing your opinion - not just using
> other words. If the word "poor" did not apply, then I would (not hastily)
> assert that you did respond out of the blue without thinking - that's why I
> asked the question - before saying so. However, if you feel it is a "poor"
> clarinet, then you were perfectly reasonable in your response - if not
> slightly ambigous.
>
> >This is my opinion, of course, and I have very sound reasons for holding
> >that opinion; again, I am not looking so much to what has been, or even
> >what is, but what is possible for us in the future.
>
> You seem to have very sound reasons for holding the opinion you stated. I
> don't think I have implied otherwise.
>
> >CHANGE A MAN'S MIND AGAINST HIS WILL, HE REMAINS OF THE SAME OPINION STILL.
>
> Since we are employing quotes, here are a couple of my favorites!
>
> "A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he describes
> another's."
> Jean Paul Richter (1763-1825)
>
> "if I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me,
> this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very
> best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until
> the end. If the end brings me out all right, what is said against me won't
> amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, 10 angels swearing I
> was right would make no difference."
> Abraham Lincoln
> Roger Garrett
> Professor of Clarinet
> Director, Concert Band & Symphonic Winds
> Recording Studio
> Illinois Wesleyan Univerisyt
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Unsubscribe from Klarinet, e-mail: klarinet-unsubscribe@-----.org
> Subscribe to the Digest: klarinet-digest-subscribe@-----.org
> Additional commands: klarinet-help@-----.org
> Other problems: klarinet-owner@-----.org
>

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unsubscribe from Klarinet, e-mail: klarinet-unsubscribe@-----.org
Subscribe to the Digest: klarinet-digest-subscribe@-----.org
Additional commands: klarinet-help@-----.org
Other problems: klarinet-owner@-----.org