Klarinet Archive - Posting 000433.txt from 1999/01

From: "Dannene Kulp" <dannene@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] tonguing speed (& circus tricks)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:19:12 -0500

Where are you? I just wanted to say that tonguing 200 is amazing! Congrats
and it will come in handy, especially cause now you won't have to learn to
double-tongue.

By the way, how do I send an original message to this list??? I've tried
sending it to klarinet@-----.org and it keeps getting send back to me with
a failure notice. Anyone?
Dannene

-----Original Message-----
From: CmdrHerel@-----.com>
Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 1:25 AM
Subject: [kl] tonguing speed (& circus tricks)

>Oh dear... I knew I'd get into trouble by answering yes to the over 200
>question. Since I opened my big mouth, let me try to explain.
>
>Yes, I can tongue over 200 in sixteenth notes for the duration of one
octave
>(chromatic) up and one octave down. (with a beat rest in between.) Single
>tongue, and cleanly. I think mostly about air while I do it. I keep my
>tongue relatively close to the reed and very light. It does come off the
reed
>in between notes. For two octaves, the speed is less. (not exactly sure
>right now how much less. Sorry.)
>
>Now, I'm not into circus tricks and don't run around with my metronome
>clocking my staccato and working on speed! LOL! I have much, much more
>important things that I need to work on. But out of curiosity one day I
did,
>and some months later Kal did the same. (And called someone on the phone
as a
>"witness" to the event!)
>
>So, yes, it's possible. Is it important? I dunno. It's a nice detail to
be
>able to work up the tempos of tongued passages and not have to worry about
>tongue speed. I have much more trouble with being able to read the notes
that
>quickly.
>
>I think tongue speed is more genetic than anything else. As long as you're
>doing everything correctly, that is. I think you could take ten people,
all
>tonguing absolutely the right way and get ten completely different top
speeds.
>I've also heard that staccato speed slows down as you get older.
>
>As for it sounding like "Chinese water torture" I completely disagree! One
>can certainly hear at that tempo, and the character of tongued notes is
very
>different from slurred. I think it's a pretty nifty sound, myself.
>
>But... It's a detail, and I feel it should be worked on after all the
basics
>are in place: Tone, hand position, basic tonguing technique, air, what is
>music and how do I phrase it, etc.
>
>Teri Herel
>
>
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