Klarinet Archive - Posting 000251.txt from 1999/01

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Coleridge-Taylor Quintet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 04:45:05 -0500

Perhaps I can find out something about this work.
It wouldn't exactly be the *only* work which apparently starts in the
wrong key, if that's the case --- how about Beethoven 1? Nielsen 1? - the
latter possibly inspired by the former.
Roger Shilcock

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Jack Kissinger wrote:

> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:05:32 -0600
> From: Jack Kissinger <kissingerjn@-----.EDU>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Coleridge-Taylor Quintet
>
> I have two recordings of this work, the "world premier recording" on Koch
> Schwann with Harold Wright and a recording on Spectrum done about 10 years
> earlier (!) by Ramon Kireilis (IMHO, Kireilis has much better sound, Wright
> took all the repeats). In the back of my mind is the thought that Georgina
> Dobree may have also recorded the work for Chantry but I'm not positive of
> this.
>
> The Kireilis recording specifically refers to the quintet as Op. 15 in f#
> minor (written in 1895) and notes that the original publisher was Breitkopf.
> This is at least additional evidence that Op. 15 is the correct number. The
> Wright recording refers to the "Quintet in A" from 1895 with no mention of the
> opus number or publisher. In any case, both recordings are of the same
> work. The probable explanation for the key signatures lies in the fact that
> f# is the relative minor for A. Different publishers may have used different
> designations.
>
> There is a "Facsimile Edition" (whatever that is) by McGinnis & Marx at the
> Washington University library that identifies the work as being in A (no opus
> number or date). On the other hand, FWIW, the chord that ends the first
> movement sounds like a minor chord to me. It appears to me that you pay your
> money and take your choice. My vote is for f#.
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Kissinger
> St. Louis
>
>
>
>
> Doug Sears wrote:
>
> > Sneezy's composition database has two listings for this composer, as shown
> > at bottom. All the library catalog entries I have found show it as Op. 10,
> > not 15, and there are entries for Op. 10 in A major as well as Op. 10 in
> > F#minor. Is it really Op. 10, and do the two keys really refer to the same
> > composition, or did he write two quintets?
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------
> > Composer : Coleridge-Taylor,Samuel (1875-1912)
> > Title : Quintet in F#m, Op. 15
> > Type : Quintet
> > Composer's Sex : Male
> > Date : 1895
> > Instrumentation : clarinet, violin, violin, viola, cello
> > Publisher : Musica Rara #1666
> > Comments : Clarinet and String Quartet, Romantic Style
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------
> > Composer : Coleridge-Taylor,Samuel (1875-1912)
> > Title : Quintet; or clarinet and strings
> > Type : Quintet
> > Composer's Sex : Male
> > Date : 1895
> > Instrumentation : clarinet, violin, violin, viola, cello
> > Publisher : Musica Rara
> > Comments : String Quartet, A Major
> >
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