Klarinet Archive - Posting 000305.txt from 1998/12

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] Girko "canned" over a bottle?
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 16:31:08 -0500

I'm going to write my comment at the top, though usually I write it at
the bottom.

My comment is:

Don't you guys have software to erase some of this stuff?

I know I'm behaving just as badly as y'all, for demonstration purposes,
but I don't usually. (Though some people think I behave badly in other
ways;-)

Good (clarinet) playing is about elegance. So is good posting.

This is just crass. And, I'm sorry Jay, it's not directed at you
particularly, just a plea in general, because it often happens.

Just look at it:

On Sun, 06 Dec 1998 13:37:46 -0500, webler@-----.net said:

> Amen,
>
> Jay Webler
>
> dnaden wrote:
>
> > I have read all of the messages about the dismissal of Mr. Girko
> > from the Dallas Symphony, and finally must add my opinion in support
> > of Gene Keyes and others who have asked that this matter be dropped.
> > I offer the following for consideration:
> >
> > 1) Mr Girko has been principal clarinet of the Dallas Symphony for
> > at least 16 years, and possibly 20+ years. 2) With the death of
> > Eduardo Mata, Andrew Litton was appointed Music Director. 3)
> > Whenever there is a leadership change, there is often a change in
> > personnel--be it for beeter or worse. 4) Whether or not it
> > happened, the wine incident may have been only the excuse used to
> > justify Mr. Girko's dismissal and a change in personnel. It is also
> > possible that his dismissal was a mutual parting-of-the-ways for
> > other PRIVATE reasons. 5) As other members have stated, theft from
> > any organization (in my case, a local government agency) is often
> > grounds for immediate dismissal--contract or not. 6) Any
> > speculation about Mr. Girko's dismissal is nothing more than rumor
> > and/or speculation, and does nothing more than invade Mr. Girko's
> > private matters, and smear his name. 7) The only relavent issue for
> > members on this list is that Mr. Girko is no longer principal
> > clarinet, and that there will be a personnel change.
> >
> > I have never had the opportunity to meet Mr. Girko, but I have heard
> > nothing but good things about him as a clarinetist. Let's put a
> > stop to all speculation and rumors, and drop this issue. As one
> > list member has pointed out, there may be more to this than the
> > so-called wine incident. As stated previously, a change in
> > leadership often brings about a change in personnel.
> >
> > David S. Naden, MMus Cal State University Los Angeles
> >
> > Martin Marks wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: gene keyes <g.keyes@-----.com>
> > > To: klarinet@-----.org> Date: Saturday,
> > > December 05, 1998 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [kl] Girko "canned" over a
> > > bottle?
> > >
> > > > At 06:44 PM 12/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I have never met Mr. Girko nor do I know anything about either
> > > > his ability or background..............why are his personal
> > > > problems a topic for discussion on this list?....they have
> > > > nothing to do with clarinets or clarinet playing and they
> > > > certainly have nothing to do with this list!
> > > > > >
> > > > > Excuse me!! Are we only to discuss topics of interest to you
> > > > > personally?
> > > Many people on this list do know who Mr Girko is and since he is a
> > > clarinet player, his dismissal from a major orchestra might be of
> > > interest to other clarinet players. Aside from this, I don't
> > > think anyone should try to dictate his preference of topics for
> > > discussion. If you are not interested in a subject, hit the
> > > delete button. Marty Marks
> > > > >
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> > > > "It's always the girl who can't dance that says the band can't
> > > > play" Old Yiddish proverb
> > > >
> > > > Gene Keyes <g.keyes@-----.com>
> > > >
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Wow!

Tony
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