Klarinet Archive - Posting 000298.txt from 1998/11

From: Note Staff Unlimited <notestaff@-----.ch>
Subj: Re: [kl] Mozart and a "new concerto"
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:32:18 -0500

klarinet@-----.org schrieb:

> From: Note Staff Unlimited <notestaff@-----.ch>
> >klarinet@-----.org schrieb:
> >>> This falls under the category of "things that make you go hmmmm.
> >>
> >> I was glancing through an older issue of the HB Recordings
> catalog
> >> (May to be exact) and on p. 13 came across this description of a
> recording
> >> by Dieter Klocker.
> >>
> >> "Scholarly research has revealed that the E flat Concerto,
> which
> >> was previously thought to be a sixth violin concerto, was probably
> >> intended to be for the clarinet."
> >>
> >> Does anyone have an idea if this research exists and where to find
> it? I
> >> have not heard of this one before.
> >>
> >> Laroy
> >>
> >> Dr. Laroy Borchert
> >> Professor of Clarinet
> >> NMSU
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >
> >There's quite a bit of information (also in English) in the booklet
> which
> >comes with the CD. If you want to ask Kloecker directly, I can help
> you. (His
> >English is not all that great.)
> >
> >Basically, what Kloecker writes is that the work is by Mozart in one
> form or
> >another. No one knows what the original looks like nor who contributed
> what to
> >it. Most important single piece of evidence is an old manuscript from
> the
> >collection of clarinettist Girolamo Salieri (nephew of Antonio) of the
> piece
> >set in E for clarinet and piano. Herr Kloecker writes convincingly but
> >presents mainly hypothosis. Kloecker does not consider himself to be a
> scholar
> >but, rather a musician with a heart for great music. However, his
> knowledge
> >and ability to put together the facts is impresive. I recommend the
> CD
> >highly for anyone who loves Mozart and the clarinet.
>
> But, Dave, the statement "Scholarly research" doesn't imply simple
> hypothesis, it implies peer review & publication, something I haven't
> seen on anything Herr Klocker has "discovered". He may well be right in
> his hypothesis, but the term "scholarly research" needs to be reserved
> for the time being.
>
> Would any of Klocker's "discoveries" and hypothesis stand a Ph.D.
> dissertation review? From what he's made available to the the rest of
> the world, I think not. Until then, I'll just listen to his playing.
> ----
> Mark Charette@-----.org
> Webmaster, http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet
> All-around good guy and devil-may-care flying fool.
> "There can be no freedom without discipline." - Nadia Boulanger
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mark,

I didn't mean to imply any scholarly research on Klöcker's part. On the
contrary - it is just hypothosis, the work of a musician and not a
musicologist. He doesn't pretend to be one either. I *do* find it convincing
what he writes but I do not confuse it with scholarly research which still
needs to be done here...

I was only trying to point out where the limited available information is.
I'm sure glad that there are *others* who do the scholarly research. For
instance, Robert Adelson was a tremendous help to me this year in my
preparation of the Mozart Concerto (A Major - yes, needs specifying!)
performances.

Probably, what came through in my message was that the music moved me far
more than musicology. I have the Mozart CD and also his CD with the Haydn
concertos by the way. Herr Kloecker has promised me the parts for sometime
late next year and I'm hoping to play it with the local orchestra in
Lörrach's new hall. (Loerrach, pop. 35,000 just spent 25 mio dollars on a new
concert hall. Impressive, huh?)

David
David Glenn
notestaff@-----.ch

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