Klarinet Archive - Posting 000097.txt from 1998/10

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Opinions
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 04:25:33 -0400

If opinions turn out not to be based on fact, surely it's an intellectual
obligation to try to undermine them?
It may well be socially unwise, of course.
Roger S>

On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, ROBERT ABRAHAM wrote:

> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 21:09:51
> From: ROBERT ABRAHAM <rkabear@-----.net>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: [kl] Opinions
>
> "NO! I'M RIGHT! YOU'RE WRONG!" It's Wagnerian type, holier than Thou attitudes that are the problems, not just people saying yes I agree, or agreeing to disagree.
>
> Good luck to all of you. I am going back to the real world where people can have their own opinions, and not have to be verbally accosted by them. Thank you George L. for your "opinion" that other's opinions are worthless, unless they match yours. The blame is not all yours though. 3 or 4 people on this list have recently been accosting all that disagree with them, even though it is possible (if not probable) that in different people's lives, different outcomes or perceptions ARE valid. That's how we learn. Grow up. I can find more 3 dimensional understanding from a child. At least they question before they say "NO...YOU OPINION IS WRONG, MINE IS RIGHT."
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> Some people on this list (a SMALL contingency, I might point out) recently have taken it upon themselves to degrade people's thoughts and undermine their intelligence by invalidating their perceptions based on their experiences. Sounds like Wagner could be alive in a lot more than the history books. If you are tired of being downgraded for thinking differently than a few other self-righteous people, SPEAK UP! Express yourself. That is the only way to tell these people that "I AM A HUMAN BEING AND HAVE VALID THOUGHTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOURS. I DO NOT NEED YOUR OPINION TO MATCH MINE TO VALIDATE MY THOUGHTS!" Factual disagreement is great, and necessary for intellectual growth. Petty egos are not.
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> I will be signing off the list. I resent that I will not be able to be involved in the discussions and learn from the varied insights of the people on the list anymore. I have learned a lot of tips from many of the contributing members, especially on teaching techniques of problems in student's playing that I haven't seen yet. I will file those away, and use them when the opportunity occurs. I refuse to watch people be rudely chastised for having a different opinion anymore. Anyone wanting to reach me can do so privately. Anyone wanting to express distaste in the childish actions of list members should do so to the list, so that these people can see that their force-fed opinions are not welcome.
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> Kelly Abraham
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> New York City
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