Klarinet Archive - Posting 000726.txt from 1998/08

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Fw: Buffet E13
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:07:55 -0400

Matt:
Re the e / b' key - I think the pin-and-hole arrangement is a fairly
recent development, and ALL "Boehm" clarinets used to have the levers
with a cork-faced contact area. The pins are not wear-proof; my A is
beginning to show signs of wear at this point, and the effects seem to be
more widespread than those of the cork getting thin. Compared with my B
flat (with no pin), the throw of the lever controlling the keycup is less.
It looks to me as though some subtle redesign of the keys hereabouts
should have been done which hasn't been done. Another potential difficulty
is that if something happens to affect the alignment of
the side lever, or its tightness on its pivot, there's no way it can be
partially compensated for by adjusting the cork. Of course, there are
those on this list who (with a vested interest?) might say, "That's good -
it means it gets to the repairman sooner ...".
Roger Shilcock

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Matt Palasik wrote:

> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:01:48 -0700
> From: Matt Palasik <mattp169@-----.com>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Fw: Buffet E13
>
> In my experience the bigest differences between intermediate and pro
> models is intonation and key work.
> On promodels tone holes are sometimes located a mm higher or lower which
> improves intonation especially in the altissimo register. Some more
> experienced players on the list could probably explain this concept
> better then I. But the keywork is often differnt. On student and
> intermediate models, the keywork will havehave corkk spacers to make key
> combinations work. I f you look at the connection of the left hand e/b
> key there will be a piece of cork at the top of its very end on which
> the a connection to the right hand e/b key. the two pieces are seperate
> and can easily come out of adjustment with a slight jar. The same is
> true for the c/f keys and the c#f/f# keys. now on r13s and many
> professional models the keys are joined together. the connetor from
> the right hand keys has a small hole in the center into which the left
> and key is inserted to make a nearly seemless connection. also on
> student models the places where keys over lap and toch each other are
> somethines slight larger then they need to be. So if they are a little
> out of adjustment they still work. BUt on r13s and others there is
> very little excess everything is exact and precise. there is move cor
> often but not to keep things in adjustment but to make the keys fuction
> better. If you look at student models metal will hit metal the keys
> will rest against the body of the instrument. On pro models cork is
> added to keep all keys level and off of each other and the body of the
> clarinet.
>
> While the keywork does not effect the sound of an instrument it will
> make it easier to play. I am just starting at a repair shoop in my town
> and in the past week i have worked on 7 or 8 student models 2
> intermediates and then go home and practice on my r13. Even after the
> student models are perfectly adjusted and the instrument is playing
> wonderful. The keywork is still slightly harder and less fluid then on
> a pro model
>
> matt
>
> Sheryl L. Katz wrote:
> >
> > I'd been looking for a clarinet in the key of C for months. After looking
> > and looking I got a used Noblet 45. This is made by LeBlanc and is an
> > "artist" or student model. It's a truly beautiful clarinet and the sound
> > and workmanship are fantastic. I've got a Yamaha YCL-72 Bb which is
> > supposedly a "professional" level clarinet and I've played R-13s and and
> > various LeBlanc pro models and I can't figure out how this Noblet is an
> > "artist" level instrument while the others are pro models.
> >
> > I haven't seen or played the Buffet E13, but based on my experience with
> > this Noblet can easily imagine that it might be difficult if not impossible
> > to distinguish the professional model from a good intermediate clarinet.
> > Maybe someone knows something about what really makes these clarinets
> > "inferior."
> >
> > Sherry Katz
> >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Debbie Sellers <CB270@-----.net>
> > >To: klarinet-owner@-----.org>
> > >Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 11:25 PM
> > >Subject: Buffet E13
> > >
> > >
> > >Knowing the R13 is a very popular clarinet I went the the music store
> > >with all intentions of buying one. I was encouraged, or almost
> > >pressured to try the E13. The guy told me he could find no difference
> > >in the two except price. I couldn't either, but I don't have the
> > >experience to tell the difference.
> >
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