Klarinet Archive - Posting 000350.txt from 1998/08

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Haydn Clarinet Concerti
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:41:09 -0400

Is anyone else reminded by Mr. Klocker's activities of Kreisler's alleged
eighteenth-century "discoveries"?
RogerShilcock

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, David B. Niethamer wrote:

> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:02:18 -0000
> From: "David B. Niethamer" <dnietham@-----.edu>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: klarinet <klarinet@-----.org>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Haydn Clarinet Concerti
>
> on 8/5/98 5:32 PM, David E Ross wrote:
>
> >Dieter Kloecker has recently uncovered and recorded what he feels to be a
> >long-lost Haydn clarinet concerto. The background and stylistic grounds
> >for such an attribution are detailed by him in a recent issue of the
> >German woodwind magazine 'rohrblatt (vol. 13/1). Presumably much of this
> >is duplicated in the notes to the CD--"Orfeo C 448971 A" (which I have not
> >yet heard.) On this CD are also 2 Haydn Concerti for 2 Clarinets, which
> >are most likely connected to the Notturni Haydn wrote for the King of
> >Naples in 1786.
>
> I'm not a scholar (nor do I play one on TV). But I have a little
> difficulty with the sort of "scholarship" practiced by Mr Klocker. He
> seems to find lots of pieces that clarinetists have not known about for
> two centuries (give or take), and he records them. But those pieces are
> rarely available for scholars to examine, are not published, and are
> rarely made available for other clarinetist to perform. *IF* these are
> legitimately long-lost works, should they not be made available for
> scholarly inquiry (of the sort practiced by our own Dan Leeson) so that
> their authenticity can be confirmed? Would it not be nice for them to be
> shared with the rest of the clarinet community (after Mr. Klocker has
> gotten his "mileage" out of them for a suitable interval of time) via
> scholarly publication?
>
> I haven't seen Mr. Klocker's article in rohrblatt, so I can't make any
> judgment about the level of the scholarship that went into this
> discovery. But my experience with Klocker's recording/edition of the
> Mozart "Quartets" for clarinet and strings makes me suspicious. It smells
> a little like Walsegg - the gentleman who commissioned Mozart's Requiem
> (and other works to be sure) in secrecy so that he could sign his own
> name to it.
>
> Can anyone offer substantive information about this "Haydn" concerto, or
> any of Klocker's other long-lost rarities. I'd love to be proven wrong.
>
> David
>
> David Niethamer
> Principal Clarinet, Richmond Symphony
> dnietham@-----.edu
> http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/
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