Klarinet Archive - Posting 000074.txt from 1998/08

From: "Dan Leeson: LEESON@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] cadenza/eingang?
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 12:55:34 -0400

> From: MX%"klarinet@-----.70
> Subj: Re: [kl] cadenza/eingang?

> on 7/29/98 9:15 PM, Dan Leeson wrote:
>
> >These place in K. 622 have been called "the cadenza" or
> >"cadenzas" even though no such thing exists in that work.
> >An eingang is something else again, maybe a distant
> >third cousin to a cadenza.
>
> Many years ago, and conductor friend was conducting a small metropolitan
> orchestra. At the next concert, the featured soloist was to be the winner
> of the concerto competition. A letter arrived from the orchestra manager,
> a woman with more time than musical knowledge, which stated that the
> soloist would play the ?*?*?*? Concerto, but would not perform the
> credenza (?!?!).
>
> What I want to know from Dan is, is the credenza anything like the
> eingong?

Well, if you want to stretch it a little, a credenza is somewhat
like a cadenza in that both are supposed to be fancy with all
sorts of frills on them. I was always amazed as a kid when I
was told that "a cadenza is the place in a concerto where the
soloist shows his skills," because I figured "What has the
soloisit been doing up to that point if not showing his skills?".

And the bigger and fancier the cadenza, very often the more it
is used in hushed respect, just like a big and fancy credenza
which holds a central place in the living room. In the Mozart
concerti, the Brahms cadenzas (in K. 491 for example) are spoken
of in whispered astonishment. They are, of course, quite
difficult and they have absolutely nothing to do with the concerto
in which they have been so carelessly placed. It is a perfect
example of knowledge from one epoch being presumed to apply to
an earlier one. Brahms also edited the 1875 edition of the
Requiem and the things he put into it!!!!! Mama mia. He was,
of course, a proponent of the long, long line, the romantic
phrase, so he loaded up the Requiem with that kind of thing.
It's beautiful, of course, but not classical.

I have a credenza from the late 1800s and it is covered with
carved woodwork. Whenever I look at it I realize what
romantic was.

>
> David
>
> David Niethamer
> Principal Clarinet, Richmond Symphony
> dnietham@-----.edu
> http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/
>
>
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Dan Leeson, Los Altos, California
Rosanne Leeson, Los Altos, California
leeson@-----.edu
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