Klarinet Archive - Posting 001357.txt from 1998/07

From: "Steven J Goldman, MD" <gpsc@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Classical Music and Young People
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:51:52 -0400

Surely you have confused suggestive or titillating for crass and lewd. The
former takes wit, the latter just hormones.

Steven Goldman
Glenview, IL 60025

sjgoldman@-----.com

Arnold Teres wrote:
>Seems to me this thread doesn't have much to do with either clarinets or
>classical music but it is interesting so here's my $.02 worth.
>Vulgar, rude, and downright obscene lyrics and themes have been a respected
>theme in poetry and theatre ever since the early greeks. anyone who has
seen
>Lysistrata can attest to that. Chaucer was no better, in fact, he was
>considerable worse. Shakespere was not reluctant to slip in a few lewd and
>even filty jokes and the trend has continued right up through Mark Twain,
>Henry Miller, and the current crop of rappers. I will note that rappers are
>not nearly as artistic (or as skilled) as the artists I mentioned but I
>don't think that you can make a case for rappers being more vulgar,
obscene,
>or tasteless.
>So it seems that the f-word (or any other vulgarity) is nothing new and
>certainly nothing to make a big deal about. The real issue is how does the
>entire piece stand up after time has passed. If people still listen to
>Publik Enemy after many years then it must have something of merit. I doubt
>it - but only time will tell.

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