Klarinet Archive - Posting 001329.txt from 1998/07

From: pollyg@-----. Gulakowski)
Subj: Re: [kl] Classical Music and Young People
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 20:14:41 -0400

P: And what was the meaning of the term "rap" 35 years ago? Ask a
hippie.
Paulette

On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:19:53 -0400 "Mark Charette" <charette@-----.org>
writes:
>From: Maestro645@-----.com>
>
>>In a message dated 7/29/98 2:03:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>charette@-----.org writes:
>>
>><< Webster's is my standard on the meaning of the word "music" -
>> "1) the art and science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds or
>tones
>> in varying melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre, esp. so as to form
>> structurally complete and emotionally expressive compositions."
>Meanings 2
>> and 3 follow from 1. >>
>>
>>Mark, where do you live? I'm going to come to your house and hide
>your
>>dictionary! :o)
>>There is rhythm and melody. The voices are carrying out a complex
>rythm,
>and
>>that is music (as stated by your Webster's). And there is sometimes
>melody,
>>referring to rise and fall of pitches, even if it's just voice
>texture, and
>no
>>singing.
>
>
>Chris -
>that's an "and" in the first statement, implying all 4. If any _one_
>term
>would qualify, it would be stated as "... in varying melody, harmony,
>rhythm, or timbre". _Most_ of the rap "music" I listen to (and I do
>listen
>to MTV, BET, VH1, and CMT often) does not qualify on all 4 counts.
>There are
>some that definitely _do_ qualify in my interpretation of Webster's as
>music - but not many. That's why I qualified my comments, neither for
>or
>against rap. Also, here in Detroit, where a lot of rap (and techno!)
>originates, the rappers call it "rap" and a few other terms (which
>escape my
>mind currently), none combined with the term "music". I'm not really
>sure
>who has put the "music" in with the "rap" part - possibly it was there
>in
>the beginning, or possibly some marketer added it, but our locals
>don't say
>"rap music", they just say "rap".
>
>Cheers,
>----
>Mark Charette@-----.org
>Webmaster, http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet
>All-around good guy and devil-may-care flying fool.
>"There can be no freedom without discipline." - Nadia Boulanger
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