Klarinet Archive - Posting 001308.txt from 1998/07

From: "Mary Sotnik" <marys@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Classical Music and Young People
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:02:39 -0400

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From: Craig Earl Countryman <cegc@-----.net>
Date: 29 July 1998 22:42
Subject: Re: [kl] Classical Music and Young People

>Well, I think that it has become more acceptable to use words like that in
>mainstream films. I was just at the movies watching the re-release of Gone
with
>Wind. What a great movie, and the line "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a
damn,"
>was controversial in those days. Now it is nothing! I wonder why that is?
>Words like that have always been around and will always exist, but I think
we
>don't have to accept that as being mainstream. A lot of people object, but
>movies like that still make money. If people are truly unhappy they will
do
>something about it and refuse to watch stuff that has that in it. Also,
I've
>noticed trends toward more vulgarity in popular literature too -- I'm
writing a
>paper on it right now for my English class. I wonder why that is? Oh
well, I
>won't take up anymore space on the list philosophizing. I've enjoyed
reading
>your comments, Mary!

Good :-), don't encourage me too much or I'll fill another page... I think
(but am not sure) that literature/films/art often express what is not
currently 'acceptable' in society, and currently (if I'm not mistaken)
there's a lot of 'political correctness' about. (It could be, though, that
you're just *noticing* swearing more recently, for some reason.)

I don't think people change that much over the centuries (no I don't
remember that far back). You can tell kids to behave differently, and they
*may* (e.g.) not swear if their teachers (or whoever) discourage them, but
when they're really at their limits or when their teachers aren't around
they'll end up behaving as they need to (hopefully without doing anything
*too* bad along the way). People don't like being *too* restricted.
(Personally I've often got *very* annoyed if people have tried to stop me
swearing, but I can see that a lot of people really hate it, and my desire
to do it *isn't* that great so I don't do it as a matter of course. But
should I ever find myself on the wrong end of military gunfire, I think
trying not to swear would be the least of my problems!)

Mary

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