Klarinet Archive - Posting 001070.txt from 1998/05

From: "Gene Nibbelin" <gnibbelin@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] Re; Allocation of Educational Spending - Not Salaries
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 01:02:25 -0400

George -

My compliments. You did it fairly well, not real well, but fairly well.

The old technique of attacking someone who disagrees with you in order to
put them on the defensive IS rather transparent, though, but your
condescension is a nice touch.

Boiling it down to basics, the point that I was making was that by reducing
the numbers and salaries of the CHIEFS, there would be a hell of a lot more
money for the INDIANS, WHO ARE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY EDUCATE THE STUDENTS.

You teachers on the list are more familiar with the statistics regarding
administrative salary levels relative to teacher salaries than I am.
However, the salaries for the grossly overstaffed Administrators in the Lee
County Schools System here in Ft. Myers, FL are absolutely obscene.

For example: A teacher with 5 years experience makes about $35,000 per
year including fringe benefits and has a class size of 25 students for an
annual per student teacher cost of $1,400. And published figures put the
annual per student costs at approximately $9,700. Thus, there are $8,300
in annual administrative costs and - to be fair - building expenses. The
outrage in this is the fact that only 14.4% of the annual per student cost
goes to the teachers.

You folks on the list know if this is a typical situation or not, but I
imagine that it applies to many, many school districts. As should be
obvious, I am on the side of the teachers in this matter.

As to relative salaries, education vs private sector, I refer you to the
effects of supply and demand on wages in Economics 101.

This is way off the subject of clarinets, so lets have this be the last
word on this matter since I imagine that we are all in basic agreement
regarding a much needed improvement in the allocation of educational
spending.

Gene
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> From: George Kidder <gkidder@-----.edu>
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: [kl] Salaries (renamed)
> Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 6:40 AM
>
> Gene -
>
> Not being so very much younger than you, I have become used to your
> attitude, and would not reply except for one rather egregious comment -
to
> wit:
>
> >The money saved by reducing the number of school administrators by 20%
to
> >30% and putting the salary scales of the remaining administrators in
line
> >with salaries in the private sector for comparable management skills
>
> Now don't we wish the salaries in education were anywhere near equal to
> what the private sector pays! This, if you like, is the root of the
> problem, not the other way around. Go figure.
> George Kidder
> MDIBL
>
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