Klarinet Archive - Posting 001098.txt from 1998/01

From: Jacqueline McGee <jmcgee@-----.com>
Subj: Re: klarinet-digest V1 #609
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:38:02 -0500

At 09:52 AM 1/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>klarinet-digest Sunday, January 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 609
>
>
>
>
> Re: Concert Band - Favorite Clarinet Parts
> re best band music
> Re: Pasquale Cardillo 1918-1998
> RE: re best band music
> El Camino Real
> Re: The Best Band Music - Epilogue II
> upcoming concerts
> LeBlanc basses
> Re: klarinet-dijest V1 #608 - Pasquale Cardillo's passing
> Re: transcriptions
> Re: The Best Band Music - Epilogue II
> Re: El Camino Real
> Please don't copy everything
> Re: El Camino Real
> Re: Please don't copy everything
>
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>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:20:12 -0500
>From: mac720@-----. Cullen)
>Subject: Re: Concert Band - Favorite Clarinet Parts
>
>I have a favorit part that will surpass all others.... Molly on the Shore
>by Percy Grainger .... Try to beat that one!
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:50:05 EST
>From: Cheddar99 <Cheddar99@-----.com>
>Subject: re best band music
>
>Hill Song No. 2 - Grainger , this is one of the best songs I've ever played in
>my life. My high school wind ensemble played it last year and it was so
>beautiful. It's very difficult, but if you are able to play it it is definatly
>worth the work!
>
>Symphony for Brass and Percussion - Guenther Schuller, I played this, believe
>it or not, as our opener for marching band this season. This is the most fun
>piece to play.
>
>Folk Song Suite - Ralph Vaughann Williams , I played this last year in our
>intermediate band. It is very fun, especially the clarinet parts.
>
>Folk Dances - Shostakovitch/ed. Reynolds, I played this last month and it is
>also a really great piece. It takes a lot of work on the end sections, but
>definatly worth it.
>
>not on the list, but I'd like to add "El Camino Real" (I forgot the composer)
>I played this last year in wind ensemble and it is also and excellent piece.
>Be sure to have a wonderful oboe player, there's a really great oboe solo. =)
>
>
>Karen D
>Los Altos High School
>Los Altos, Ca
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:00:57 -0600 (CST)
>From: Roger Garrett <rgarrett@-----.edu>
>Subject: Re: Pasquale Cardillo 1918-1998
>
>Jonathan,
>
>Thank you for sharing this with us.......I am happy to have read of your
>lessons with Mr. Cardillo as well as the interesting obituary that
>followed. I love the Boston Pops recording collection I have.....now it
>becomes doubly treasured! I am sure he was very proud of your
>accomplishments......sure wish I could have tasted his cooking!!!!!
>
>Roger Garrett
>IWU
>
>On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Jonathan Cohler wrote:
>
>> Pasquale Cardillo the former long-time second clarinetist of the Boston
>> Symphony Orchestra and principal clarinetist of the Boston Pops passed away
>> this past Tuesday. Below is the obituary from the Boston Globe today. He
>> was a member of the BSO for 45 years and a teacher of many students in the
>> Boston area. He taught for many years at Boston University, privately, and
>> at Tanglewood........[etc.....]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:50:56 +0900
>From: "Tetsuya Ishikawa" <tetsuya999@-----.com>
>Subject: RE: re best band music
>
>>not on the list, but I'd like to add "El Camino Real" (I forgot the
>composer)
>
>I think composer is Alfred Reed.
>
>Tetsuya Ishikawa
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:55:17 -0700 (MST)
>From: Shouryu Nohe <jnohe@-----.edu>
>Subject: El Camino Real
>
>Karen sez:
>not on the list, but I'd like to add "El Camino Real" (I forgot the
>composer)
>I played this last year in wind ensemble and it is also and excellent
>piece.
>Be sure to have a wonderful oboe player, there's a really great oboe solo.
>=)
>
>The composer is the great Alfred Reed, composer of about every third piece
>you reed this century ^_^. I agree, it's a fantastic piece.
>
>Shouryu Nohe
>http://web.nmsu.edu/~jnohe
>ICQ: 6771552
>New Mexico State Univ.
>REMEMBER: Four out of five cats blink when hit on the head with a ball
> peen hammer.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:16:14 -0600
>From: George Kidder <gkidder@-----.edu>
>Subject: Re: The Best Band Music - Epilogue II
>
>NO COMMENT DEPARTMENT
>
>>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:47:16 -0600 (CST)
>>From: Roger Garrett <rgarrett@-----.edu>
>>Subject: Re: The Best Band Music - Epilogue II
>>
>>Yup.......I was going from memory and it got left off....feel free to add
>>to it.....I am doing that now!
>>
>>Roger
>>
>>On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Jennifer Rose McKenna wrote:
>>
>>> roger...this is a great list...but i'm surprised not to find
>>> Arnolds "Four Scottish Dances" on this list...i understand it
>>> may have been left off...but it has always been at the top of
>>> my list....just wondering...
>>>
>>> jennifer mckenna
>>> jrm0013@-----.edu
>>> university of north texas
>>> clarinet concentration/music ed major
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:28:02 -0600 (CST) Roger Garrett
>>> <rgarrett@-----.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This is Part II - including all that was sent before...sorry for doing it
>>> > this way, but it is the only way I know how.
>>> >
>>> > Please - unless there is an issue, do not repost the entire list!
>>> > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:47:16 -0600 (CST)
>
>ENTIRE LIST FOLLOWS - REPOSTED FOR THE SECOND TIME.
>(Its a wonderful list, and I was just sure I would see it again. Now I
>wonder how many times I will see it.)
>
>
>George Kidder
>gkidder@-----.edu
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:19:48 -0800 (PST)
>From: Nicholas Yuk Sing Yip <nyip@-----.edu>
>Subject: upcoming concerts
>
>Hey, the University of California Santa Cruz orchestra is presenting its
>second concert this season, at its new recital hall on Friday January 30
>and Saturday January 31 at 8 P.M. Our featured guest this time is,
>clarinetist Mark Brandenburg. He is a fabulous player. For those of you
>locals who know him, know what I mean. We will be playing the following:
>
>Dvorak's sym. 9 "New World"
>Mozart's "Clarinet Concerto"
>
>Email me if you wish to come, or provide any insight about Mark, and I will
>see what I can do.(^_^)
>
>P.S. The Vancouver Wind Trio is wonderful and entertaining. Finally I
>actually met someone on this list. 9,000 more left to go.
>cheers
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:29:55 +1300
>From: Dodgshun family <dodgshun@-----.nz>
>Subject: LeBlanc basses
>
>Having recently played a LeBlanc for the Khachaturian piano concerto
>(fantastic!) I can say that I really liked it. The high notes weren't quite
>as good as the Selmer Paris ones, but that could be because the LeBlanc was
>not new where the Selmer was only about one or two years old. (Not that I
>needed the upper register for the Khachaturian, but I used them in another
>work). The LeBlanc also had a crystal mouthpiece, and its lower note
>fingerings were slightly easier to get my hand around than the Selmer Paris
>- - I do have small hands though!
>
>Anna
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:30:43 -0600
>From: Alan Stanek <stanalan@-----.edu>
>Subject: Re: klarinet-dijest V1 #608 - Pasquale Cardillo's passing
>
>Jim,
>
>Thought you might like to see this for the magazine.
>
>I think we're still havin fun?! :) alan
>
>klarinet-digest wrote:
>>
>> klarinet-digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 608
>>
>> Pasquale Cardillo 1918-1998
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:38:01 -0500
>> From: Jonathan Cohler <cohler@-----.net>
>> Subject: Pasquale Cardillo 1918-1998
>>
>> Pasquale Cardillo the former long-time second clarinetist of the Boston
>> Symphony Orchestra and principal clarinetist of the Boston Pops passed away
>> this past Tuesday. Below is the obituary from the Boston Globe today. He
>> was a member of the BSO for 45 years and a teacher of many students in the
>> Boston area. He taught for many years at Boston University, privately, and
>> at Tanglewood.
>>
>> I studied with him in high school and part of college and learned most of
>> the basic aspects of clarinet playing from him. I still remember my first
>> lesson with him. I went in to play the Brahms f minor Sonata when I was in
>> 10th grade. Having recently received a nearly perfect score on my All
>> State audition playing that piece, I thought I knew how to play it.
>>
>> When I left the lesson, having been stopped by Mr. Cardillo on nearly every
>> measure, I felt incredibly exhilarated at the prospect of how much more I
>> had to learn! He was a real stickler for rhythm, sound and dynamics (and
>> didn't like vibrato, by the way; he always told me to stop; but later on, I
>> think he started to like it a bit; I never gave up). He was a great
>> teacher and a great cook!
>>
>> I thought other past students of his on the list might be interested in the
>> news of his passing.
>>
>> - --------------------
>> Jonathan Cohler
>> cohler@-----.net
>>
>> ***********************************************
>> Clarinetist with symphony for 45 years; at 79
>>
>> By Tom Long, Globe Staff, 01/24/98
>>
>> Pasquale Cardillo, a clarinetist for the Boston Symphony Orchestra for 45
>> years, died Tuesday at his home in Newton. He was 79.
>>
>> "Patsy," as he was called, was a member of the Boston Symphony from 1939
>> until 1984. He also performed with the Boston Pops.
>>
>> He was born in 1918 in North Adams and graduated from New England
>> Conservatory of Music. He joined the symphony in 1939, when conductor Serge
>> Koussevitzky was frantically searching for a clarinetist to join the
>> orchestra at Tanglewood, the symphony's summer home in Lenox. Mr. Cardillo
>> and 20 others auditioned, and the call came to his home in North Adams. "I
>> came down on the train, and I was numb," Mr. Cardillo recalled in a 1981
>> Globe interview.
>>
>> Koussevitzky's temper in rehearsal was legendary. "He would look over the
>> top of his glasses," Mr. Cardillo recalled, "and that blue vein would start
>> sticking out of the side of his head, and you knew you had it coming."
>>
>> Mr. Cardillo said that once, early in his career, he "panicked" and made an
>> incorrect entry in the final "General Dance" of Ravel's "Daphnis and
>> Chloe." Because that clarinet solo leads a parade, everyone followed him,
>> leaving Koussevitzky conducting all alone. Afterward, he was summoned into
>> the conductor's presence. "What are you doing?" Koussevitzky asked. "Why
>> you not stop and begin again?"
>>
>> During another concert, Koussevitzky told Mr. Cardillo, "If you play like
>> this again, you will kill me." A disaffected bassoonist approached Mr.
>> Cardillo at intermission and said, "If you play like that again, I'll give
>> you $25."
>>
>> A self-described "hot-headed Italian," Mr. Cardillo played for the Boston
>> Pops under the late Arthur Fiedler. During a rehearsal many years ago, he
>> became angry with Fiedler and muttered "bastard" under his breath. The
>> maestro took offense and stalked off the stage. Mr. Cardillo apologized to
>> Fiedler and the two became friends. In fact, Mr. Cardillo often drove
>> Fiedler to performances. He recalled one trip when they were stopped at a
>> traffic light and some teenagers spotted the famous conductor. "Look," they
>> excitedly called out, "there's Beethoven."
>>
>> Mr. Cardillo admitted that some of the classically trained Pops musicians
>> found it awkward - even demeaning - to play the commercially successful
>> Pops music designed to appeal to mass audiences.
>>
>> "But nobody has a right to look down his nose at you because you prefer the
>> Pops to Symphony. It's good music. It's fun," Mr Cardillo said in 1984, and
>> spoke of an episode when Koussevitzky was conducting a rehearsal of a score
>> by an American composer.
>>
>> "It was a cruddy piece," said Mr. Cardillo. "He knew we didn't like it. He
>> said: `Gentlemen, it doesn't make any difference how you feel about this
>> music. You have to play it as though it were the greatest music ever
>> written."'
>>
>> An accomplished cook, Mr. Cardillo's clam sauce and scampi recipes were
>> featured in the Boston Symphony Cookbook. He also enjoyed fishing at his
>> lakeside summer cottage in the Berkshires near Tanglewood.
>>
>> Mr. Cardillo played his last concert with the Boston Symphony at Symphony
>> Hall on Sept. 8, 1984. He was said to be delighted that Queen Beatrix of
>> the Netherlands attended. After he took his final bow, he hurried to the
>> Berkshires to get in some trout fishing.
>>
>> He leaves his wife, Charlotte A. (Magnuson); a daughter, Marian Kidder of
>> Swanton, Vt.; three sons, Thomas of Wrentham, John of Hopkinton, and
>> Richard of Newton; two sisters, Angela Mullen of North Adams and Christina
>> Moran of Florida; two brothers, Peter of Florida and Francis of
>> Williamstown; and eight grandchildren.
>>
>> A funeral Mass will be said at 11 a.m. today in St Bernard Church, Newton.
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of klarinet-digest V1 #608
>> ******************************
>
>- --
>======================================================================
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>Phone: 208-236-3108; Fax: 208-236-4884; E-mail: stanalan@-----.edu
> http://www.isu.edu/departments/music
>President, International Clarinet Asociation http://www.clarinet.org
>Come to ClarinetFest '98 - The Ohio State University, July 7-12, 1998
> http://www.arts.ohio-state.edu/Music/Clarfest
>Make plans for ClarinetFest '99 in Ostend, Belgium, July 6-11, 1999
> http://www.bitsmart.com/ClarFest99
>======================================================================
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:07:07 EST
>From: Labadorf <Labadorf@-----.com>
>Subject: Re: transcriptions
>
>In a message dated 1/24/98 12:39:21 PM, Bill E. wrote:
>
><< Tom asks why transcribe from original instrumentation if that's not
>what the composer intended? The answer, of course, is "So that
>clarinettists can play Adagio for Strings, flutists can play K 622,
>concert bands can play the William Tell Overture, etc." Is it good
>art? Maybe not. Is it required to experience music in its perfect form
>in favor of not experiencing it at all? I don't think that either. >>
>
>
>I would have no objection to a flutist playing K 622 so long as I or anyone
>else didn't know about it. For personal pleasure, okay, but not for public
>performance! My point is with audience perspective.
>
>
><< I
>believe it was Vaughan Williams who addressed this issue in general when
>he declared (referring to the playing of music), "If something is worth
>doing, it's worth doing badly." I believe he was a lot more than
>half-serious about this. >>
>
>Vaughan Williams was a fine composer, but I disagree with him on this point.
>Are you sure he was not being sarcastic? Again, in private quarters, playing
>badly is okay. Didn't we hear on this list a report of the Vienna Phil
>playing Ravel badly? That audience did not put up with it.
>
><<But where do you draw the line? How
>democratic can art be? >>
>
>This is definately a judgement call - one that I would not trust to anyone.
>As I mentioned in my first posting, I'm not against transcriptions as a rule.
>The transcriber has to know what will work. But I think you would be hard
>pressed to find very many pieces that sound as well or better than the
>original setting.
>
>Tom L.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:47:17 -0500
>From: Mark Charette <charette@-----.com>
>Subject: Re: The Best Band Music - Epilogue II
>
>Roger has promised me he'll put together hist list for publication
>on www.sneezy.org/clarinet, where we can refer to it whenever we
>like.
>
>Then we (Klarinet) get to figure out who -> publishes <- the pieces;
>that may be the hard part :)
>- --
>Mark Charette | "This is a very democratic organization, so let's
>charette@-----. All those who disagree with me, raise
>MIKA Systems, Inc.| their hands." - Eugene Ormandy
>Webmaster of http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet, The Clarinet Pages
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:36:42 +0800
>From: "Loh Tzu Liang" <tlloh@-----.sg>
>Subject: Re: El Camino Real
>
>Yup!
>
>Alfred Reed is one of the most popular composers here in Singapore.
>El Camino Real has been played again and again both in and outdoors for
>years now.
>
>
>I'd like to add a few pieces..
>
>Spolights on the Bass Clarinet - Jan Hadermann
>Beautiful slightly jazzy piece. It exploits the whole range of the bclt
>wonderfully!
>
>Lord Of the Rings - Johan de Meij
>
>Purple Twilight - don't remember..think it was James Barnes..
>Its a piece in rememberence of the explosion of the space shuttle Callenger.
>
>The bclt part isn't really special or anything but I like it a lot.
>
>Other Classical transcriptions include Light Calvary and New World
>Symphony
>
>Well thats all for now :-)
>Yours sincerely,
>Loh
>tlloh@-----.com
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: Shouryu Nohe <jnohe@-----.edu>
>To: Clarinet People <klarinet@-----.us>
>Date: 25 January 1998 12:27
>Subject: El Camino Real
>
>
>>Karen sez:
>>not on the list, but I'd like to add "El Camino Real" (I forgot the
>>composer)
>>I played this last year in wind ensemble and it is also and excellent
>>piece.
>>Be sure to have a wonderful oboe player, there's a really great oboe solo.
>>=)
>>
>>The composer is the great Alfred Reed, composer of about every third piece
>>you reed this century ^_^. I agree, it's a fantastic piece.
>>
>>Shouryu Nohe
>>http://web.nmsu.edu/~jnohe
>>ICQ: 6771552
>>New Mexico State Univ.
>>REMEMBER: Four out of five cats blink when hit on the head with a ball
>> peen hammer.
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:50:17 -0500
>From: dhughes@-----.com (David Hughes)
>Subject: Please don't copy everything
>
>When replying to a message (for example, Roger's recent listings of
>favorite band pieces, where people suggest an addition and repeat the
>entire list), please *DO NOT QUOTE THE ENTIRE MESSAGE*, unless essential to
>what you're trying to say. If using a reply feature that automatically
>quotes the entire message, please use "cut" to eliminate unnecessary parts.
>
>Following this practice will greatly reduce the time it takes to get
>through our messages and speed transfer. It will also help ensure that
>people will read your comments, which won't be buried 'midst a stream of
>"<<" lines.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:10:16 -0600 (CST)
>From: Roger Garrett <rgarrett@-----.edu>
>Subject: Re: El Camino Real
>
>On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Loh Tzu Liang wrote:
>> Lord Of the Rings - Johan de Meij
>
>this is a piece that was left off my list and I will add. I have several
>Alfred Reed pieces on the list. Of course, many people have different
>tastes.....that's what makes music so interesting and diverse.
>
>However, the list I provided is intended to be one that presents the
>most serious of band literature - not necessarily the most exciting or fun
>of band literature. Musically speaking, I would feel uncomfortable adding
>just any piece because someone likes it.........this is especially true
>regarding the transcriptions. The category I added was for transcriptions
>that are considered almost the equal of the orchestra (or whatever genre)
>counterpart or that were approved of by the composer.
>
>The listserv has "the list", I have been asked to provide it for the
>archives, so I guess I will now get my complete lists and recordings,
>etc.....and begin the task of adding, moving, etc. titles. But for the
>sake of the listserv, I probably will not post again...... Anyone with a
>copy of the list may feel free to retype and add/delete for their own
>personal tastes.....this way, you can develop your own list that matches
>your philosophy and ideas of what represents the best, excellent, good, or
>ok band literature!
>
>Roger Garrett
>IWU
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:11:47 -0600 (CST)
>From: Roger Garrett <rgarrett@-----.edu>
>Subject: Re: Please don't copy everything
>
>This is a suggestion I wrote on the original list.....I hope people who
>repost for specific reasons only do so with the title/s that are necessary
>or just comment without the titles....it really IS too big and unweildy to
>keep reposting.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Roger Garrett
>IWU
>
>On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, David Hughes wrote:
>
>> When replying to a message (for example, Roger's recent listings of
>> favorite band pieces, where people suggest an addition and repeat the
>> entire list), please *DO NOT QUOTE THE ENTIRE MESSAGE*, unless essential to
>> what you're trying to say. If using a reply feature that automatically
>> quotes the entire message, please use "cut" to eliminate unnecessary parts.
>>
>> Following this practice will greatly reduce the time it takes to get
>> through our messages and speed transfer. It will also help ensure that
>> people will read your comments, which won't be buried 'midst a stream of
>> "<<" lines.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
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