Klarinet Archive - Posting 000660.txt from 1998/01

From: Gysbert <gysbert@-----.za>
Subj: Re: Vienna Phil.
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:21:08 -0500

At 04:26 PM 98/01/04 -0500, Matt Walter wrote:

>There are so many opinions flying about here I have lost track of the=
facts!
>What are the facts? If the VPO is truly a racist, prejudiced and immoral
>orchestra, how does this affect us all? What are we to do about it, and=
will
>we have any affect on the situation?=20
> In response to those who say that Americans try to force our
>culturalistic ideals on Europe, and we should let the VPO exist as it wants
>to: Don't you think that his subject extends beyond the cultural=
differences
>of two continents? Discrimination in any culture, whether accepted or not,=
is
>WRONG. Just because those who support VPO may accept this "long and rich
>tradition", does that mean everyone else should accept it too? Apartheid=
in
>South Africa was also a tradition. Should we accept it for that reason=
also?=20
> If these "facts" about the VPO are true, this "long and rich=
tradition,"
>although supplying some of the greatest music in the world, is an=
undeniable
>moral wrong. I believe that tradition and heritage are not an excuse for
>bigotry or discrimination on any continent.=20

Mr Walter - as you say - should everyone else accept your opinion as=20
a given too?. Your mouth is full of the "wrong" of "apaatheit". Have you=
ever
been in South Africa? Have you recently been in South Africa - after this=20
"wonderful" alternative of apartheid has been implemented and Johannesburg,=
for
instance, became the murder-capital of the world. You talk about tradition -
what
do you now about our history? Let me tell you that the "acceptance" of=
apartheid
has nothing to do with morality but everything with Anglo-American greed.=
The=20
same greed for gold that made the second Anglo- Boere War (1899-1902) and=
the=20
subsequent holocaust happened where 27 000 of our Boere women and children=
were
murdered in British concentration camps. We Boere people were the first=
freedom
fighters in Africa against imperialism and colonialism. You probably will
not know
anything about it - only because you are fed with what should believe. Have=
you=20
ever thought why Red China and Russia were never punished for their=
human-rights
record? Have you ever used China as an example of something that is morally
wrong
as you did with apartheid? Do you know that apartheid has everything to do=
with=20
redefining the colonial borders drawn by British Colonial authorities after=
the
British won the war against our women and children? Do Mexicans in America=
have
exactly the same rights as Americans in the USA? What then if I (as let's=
say=20
a powerful outsider) declare Mexico (and perhaps Cuba) and the USA as a=
single=20
country and demand equal right for all. Will that be acceptable to the
Americans?
I very much doubt it - especially if one sees how illegal immigrants from=
Mexico
are treated. Then I can also say a lot about the way Americans, Canadians,=
=20
Australians and New Zealanders solved their aboriginal problems. Talking=
about=20
bigotry ....
=20

To all

Sorry that I misused your highly valued clarinet list to correct an
extremely biased
and misinformed view (clich=E9 ?) that was unfortunately promoted on your=
list.

Regards

Gysbert