Klarinet Archive - Posting 000211.txt from 1998/01

From: "David S. Naden" <dnaden@-----.net>
Subj: Re: women not allowed
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:18:16 -0500

Roger--

You did not provoke any anger. My position is that the topic has strayed tooo far, and
as other have stated, it's time to put this issue to bed. I have a fairly high
tolerance also, but this is one of those issues that can never be settled, and only
debated.

David

Roger Garrett wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, David S. Naden wrote:
>
> > Roger--
> >
> > You must like to argue.
>
> No I don't!!! (just kidding).
>
> I appreciate your point of view on this David......and I admit it can get
> out of hand. My opinion at this point is that it has not, but.....my
> tolerance for it may be higher.
>
> I used to be on several listservs.....but the enormous amount of mail has
> caused me to gradually reduce to just this one. Occassionaly I sign off
> and go to another, but.......if the conversation turns toward a hot topic,
> I enjoy the discussions.
>
> Sorry if I provoked any anger over my responses....no such intent was
> meant.
>
> Roger Garrett
> IWU
>
> > I jumped into this fracus only at a point where I
> > believed that it strayed tooooo far from any relavancy to the clarinet and related
> > musical topics. I believe that we are simply debating the employment of women (be
> > it in an orchestra or not) and women's rights as we perceive them as Americans.
> >
> > There is a list to discuss broader orchestral, musical and conducting topics.
> > Coordinated from Clemson University, it is called Orchestralist. This topic has
> > also been a topic on that list, and it is my opinion that that is a more proper
> > forum. If this issue had focussed on its impact on clarinet auditions and
> > selection, or the discrimination of Boehm system clarinet players from an
> > orchestra which requires clarinet players to use Oehler system clarinets, I would
> > have taken a different view.
> >
> > David S. Naden, Graduate Student
> > Cal State University Los Angeles
> >
> > Roger Garrett wrote:
> >
> > > Oops.....sorry Starr....I meant my reply to be addressed toward David. My
> > > apologies.
> > >
> > > Roger Garrett
> > > IWU
> > >
> > > On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, David S. Naden wrote:
> > >
> > > > Starr--
> > > >
> > > > I have kept silent about this whole Vienna Philharmonic thing because it is
> > > > an IMPROPER topic for this list (it belong to Orchestralist, a list
> > > > pertaining to conducting and orchestral topics in general. But here goes....
> > >
> > > etc......
> >
> >
> >
> >