Klarinet Archive - Posting 000980.txt from 1997/10

From: njs5@-----.uk (Nick Shackleton)
Subj: Re: Looking for Bass Clarinet in A
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:45:50 -0400

Oddly enough the only pre-revolution Russian clarinet I own is a bass to low
C by Shediva of Odessa on the Black Sea (he was originally Czech but worked
in Odessa). It is in Bb but I feel pretty confident that they would have
been available in A in the same model. German world basses in A are much
commoner than Boehm Sytem basses in A. I have an A bass made by Heckel that
goes to low Eflat. There is a bass in A on display in the museum in Berlin
but I forget what the lowest note is.
Nick
>Given the evidence from Rimsky, maybe the A clarinet to low C *was* to be
>found at some period in Russia. What does anyone know about Russian
>woodwind? Waas there a "school" of woodwind manufacture in
>pre-Revolutionary Russia?
>Roger Shilcock
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>On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, ROBERT HOWE wrote:
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>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:53:03 -0500
>> From: ROBERT HOWE <arehow@-----.net>
>> To: leeson@-----.edu
>> Cc: "klarinet@-----.us>
>> Subject: Re: Looking for Bass Clarinet in A
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>> Before me are orchestration texts by (in order of publication)
>> Berlioz/Strauss, Rimsky, Forsyth, Kennan, Piston, DelMar and Adler. ALL
>> COVER THIS TOPIC of A versus Bb bass, altho Rimsky only in a table;
>> interestingly, his table of ranges for bass calinet in A or Bb extends
>> to written low C. Strauus even states that the A bass clarinet is
>> obsolete (yet he wrote for it!!) Piston's discussion is the best and is
>> essentially the same as what I have said in the past four notes.
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>> Q. E. D.
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>> Robert Howe
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>> Dan Leeson: LEESON@-----.edu wrote:
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>> > > From: MX%"klarinet@-----.09
>> > > Subj: Re: Looking for Bass Clarinet in A
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>> > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, ROBERT HOWE wrote:
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>> > > > Most orchestration textbooks cover this in detail....
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>> > I'm one post out of synch, but I have never seen any
>> > orchestration book cover this in any detail. The most
>> > that will be said is that "the A bass clarinet is an
>> > obsolete instrument" but that, on the part of the author,
>> > is a cop out.
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>> > > Ahhh.....just a little turning of the knife hmmmm? *sly look*....we
shall
>> > > see....we shall see.....
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>> > > RG
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>> > =======================================
>> > Dan Leeson, Los Altos, California
>> > Rosanne Leeson, Los Altos, California
>> > leeson@-----.edu
>> > =======================================
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