Klarinet Archive - Posting 000790.txt from 1997/10

From: "Benjamin A. Maas" <bmaas@-----.net>
Subj: Re: Summer music camps in California
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:53:32 -0400

I went to Arrowbear several years ago (while Dennis was running it) and
there was never, I repeat never, a religious slant to it. The closest
thing was I think we sung Donna Nobis Pacem in a round once. My brother
went there two years ago and didn't mention anything about a religious
slant.....

The "slant" with the camp is that everybody should enjoy everybody else,
like one big family. At nights, we would talk around the campfire and
discuss problems, thoughts, stories, etc.... and then we would sing songs
and call it a night.

Arrowbear is a lot of fun and a great camp, but a religious experience...
no.

Benjamin Maas
Clarinetist and Digital Recording Engineer
Student, University of Southern California
Executive Director, Digital Renaissance Consort
bmaas@-----.net
bmaas@-----.edu

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> From: Oliver Seely <oliver@-----.EDU>
> To: klarinet@-----.EDU
> Subject: Re: Summer music camps in California
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 1997 1:52 PM
>
> I can't remember if this topic was raised on FLUTE or KLARINET. My
apologies
> to everyone for having not kept a better account of my messages. Someone
> posted that Arrowbear Music Camp in California has a bit of a religious
slant,
> that people can get "two services for one", as it were.
>
> Were that the case, this old agnostic would be very displeased. Fred
> Ohlendorf's primary statement of faith to all of us was that young people

> making beautiful music together is a good thing.
>
> So I wrote to Fred's daughter who helps to maintain the Arrowbear Web
page
> and asked her if the camp has been "born again". She replied that it has
no
> more of a religious slant now than when I was a camper between 1955 and
1957.
> It is true that we sang grace as a round before lunch and dinner and the
> campers still do so in memory of Fred, but other than that there is no
> religious message.
>
> I apologize again for posting this reply to both lists.
>
> Oliver
>
>