Klarinet Archive - Posting 000755.txt from 1997/09

From: Daniel.Meirsman@-----.com
Subj: RE: Greenlines cracking
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:02:15 -0400

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Allow me to add my pennyworth of controversy.

In MHO cracking (of clarinets) is caused by stress in the material of the
clarinet. These stresses (almost?) always are caused by 'anisotropic' response
to environmental changes (temperature, humity, pressure to quote just a few
related to atmospheric parameters). Composte materials are not necessarily
immune from these influences.

I would suppose the would-plastic composite is 'molded' and then turned on a
lathe. The moulding process is a fine candidate for introduning stress as is the
turning on a lathe.

The only advantage for Buffet is, I think, one of (green) image and economics.

Where is the economics:
1. Molding garbage is not only cheap, but it also avoids the selection process
of checking wood for cracks.
2. Even if Mpingo is darn cheap, it needs an aging process, whether natural or
forced in an autoclave. In either case it costs money.

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Daniel Meirsman
Belgium
e-mail: Daniel.Meirsman@-----.com
voice: +32 16 390 733
fax: +32 16 390 600
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-----Original Message-----
From: majordom@-----.us
Subject: Re: Greenlines cracking

GT,

I am aware that the Greenline clarinets contain 10% of some form of
plastic, but the rest of it is wood. I think that makes it a composite
clarinet, not a plastic clarinet. As noted in later parts of this
thread, if Buffet had used a laminate, it might be cracking more, not
less. I don't think it's impossible that Greenlines would crack, because
they are mostly wood and wood has weaknesses, sometimes ones that have
little to do with grain. But they haven't really been in use long enough
to find out how often and under what conditions cracking could occur.

Alexis

"You can swim all day in the Sea of Knowledge
and come out completely dry. Most people do."
--The Phantom Tollbooth

On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:41:30 -0400 (EDT) GTGallant@-----.com writes:
>No offense, but the idea that GreenLines crack "less" as opposed to not
>cracking at allis absurd. The GreenLine is a plastic, plain and
simple. >The Greenline billets are a composite plastic meaning it is
made with two >or more parts and is formed (densified) under heat and
pressure. Therefore, it >should never crack do to extreme temperature
changes. > >It just proves that a professional clarinet can be made from
plastic and >sound as good, if not better than wood. I just wish Buffet
would have used a >better plastic (i.e. - laminate) that would posess
the color and grain pattern patten >of grenidilla, rosewood, etc. I'll
never buy a wood clarinet again, plastic is >the supreme being!

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