Klarinet Archive - Posting 000431.txt from 1997/09

From: Daniel.Meirsman@-----.com
Subj: FW: vibrations - oh not again!
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 05:59:07 -0400

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-----Original Message-----
From: Meirsman, Daniel
Subject: RE: vibrations - oh not again!

I have noticed that in discussions about musical instruments, and wind
instruments in particular, people (musicians) are often unwilling to recognize
the fact that they experience the instrument and its tonal qualities quite
differently from their audience. IMHO, most of the discussions on tone quality
stem from this oversight. The path through which the sound is perceived is
totally different from that through which the audience perceives it, hence the
huge difference. Add to that the weight of the instruments, the sculpting of the
keys, the vibration of the air through tone-holes,etc... and you will appreciate
there is more to an instrument (from the musicians point of view) than just
plain sound.

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Daniel Meirsman
e-mail: Daniel.Meirsman@-----.com
voice: +32 16 390 733
fax: +32 16 390 600
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-----Original Message-----
From: majordom@-----.us
Subject: re:vibrations - oh not again!

I put a bracket{{{{ around what I agreed about what Roger Garrett wrote.
I have yet to play a plastic clarinet that could hold a candle to my
Buffet Prestige R-13's.... PERIOD. If you can duplicate the dimensions,
and mass produce it to sound the same - I'll be the first to order
it!!!!! Then I'll get a Bass and an Eb to play outside in the snow with.
;) D.B.

> Roger Garrett wrote:
>
> >What the below says so well is great! What is ommitted and is
important > >to note is that most other plastic clarinets are not
Composite > >Plastics.....therefore, the instrument Buffet has come up
with is > >remarkably different from a standard plastic clarinet that
does not have > >the wood chips/dust etc. as part of its material. {{{{
Most people will agree > >that the material itself is important in
providing a resonating > >chamber}}}}....and the Composite Plastic
quality is much closer to a wood > >clarinet in this regard than other
plastic clarinets.

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