Klarinet Archive - Posting 000170.txt from 1997/07

From: "Todd and Lynnette Staley" <nette@-----.net>
Subj: Re: Amendment #1
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:57:27 -0400

It seems to me as if we have one of these little tifs every couple of
weeks and several end up slightly angered over the situation. What some
are failing to realize is that disagreement is part of the real world and
learning to disagree agreeably is just part of living. We are all people
of relative intelligence and should take opinions of others seriously even
if we don't think that they have a leg to stand on, hence forming our own
opinion. This is a great forum for discussion and I think that overall
everyone is quite polite. Just my .02
--
Todd & Lynnette Staley
email: nette@-----.net

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> From: Neil Leupold <nleupold@-----.edu>
> To: Klarinet List <klarinet@-----.us>
> Subject: Amendment #1
> Date: Sunday, July 06, 1997 1:29 PM
>
> On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Dan Leeson: LEESON@-----.edu wrote:
>
> > Jennifer, I don't remember anyone electing you to decide which items
> > of clarinet discussion do or do not belong on this list. That is
> > the purview of the list moderators.
>
> I didn't find Jennifer's posting particularly supportive to the
> spirit of our Klarinet list, which has always seemed to be qualified
> by openness and tolerance of others' thoughts and discussions. How-
> ever, she still has the right nonetheless to express her opinion on
> any given subject -- even whether or not she feels it belongs on the
> list. There are no moderators on Klarinet beyond the members them-
> selves, which means that Jennifer is as qualified as anybody else
> to suggest delimitation of discussion material. Cap Bromley and
> Jim Faye are not moderators, merely administrators. They do not
> police the list for general content, except to respond to really
> disruptive and/or distasteful transmissions by outsiders bent on
> getting some negative attention. Beyond that, they do not par-
> ticipate in the act of deciding the subject material, even when it
> sometimes strays away from clarinet performance, pedagogy, and/or
> scholarship, which is not too often. "That's not their bag, baby."
>
> This much having been said, I believe that Jennifer will find --
> as many others have before her -- that the only thing which *isnt'*
> usually tolerated on Klarinet is intolerance itself. This is one of
> the most focused and friendly discussion groups I've ever seen in
> cyberspace. And when really inappropriate posts have popped up
> in the past, the vocal majority of members has asserted itself
> time and again, eliminating those really eggregious cases with
> a spontaneously unified barrage of objections. In the case of
> Dan's exchange with Jerry Korten, it is yet to be seen whether
> most members find their bantering distasteful or not. I suspect
> Jennifer will find herself numbered among the very few (if any
> others) who find the dialogue in question objectionable. Most
> of us may not be particularly interested in what they're saying,
> but at least it has something to do with the clarinet. This is
> much more than can be said for other threads which have arisen
> in the past.
>
> Meanwhile, amidst all of this, there is always (as I've pointed out
> before) the inconquerable delete button. If your keyboard doesn't have
> one of these, I recommend you have one installed. It affords each one
of
> us the luxury of engaging in highly prejudicial censorship, based
exactly
> on what we individually think and feel. This applies to the message
> you're reading right now. 'Don't like what I'm saying? Delete it.
> Delete every subsequent post you ever see coming from me, or Dan, or
> Jennifer, or anybody else whose posts generally annoy or disturb you.
> That's your choice. I would encourage that, much more readily over a
> continuous string of intolerant posts about whether or not somebody
> else's typewritten words suit your fancy. Usually, when no response is
> forthcoming to a given submission to the list, the sender changes the
> subject or simply fades away for neglect. This is the clearest
indication
> of all regarding how the bulk of list members feel about what is being
> sent to their list.
>
> Neil
>
>
>